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02-09-2008, 02:45 PM | #23 |
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Wow, I didn't realize would cause so much frustration. It's somewhat of a joke in my book (the officer is smiling after all ), but it should point out the fact that there are redundant discussions taking place (and maybe that's fine). The repost comments can serve a useful function however, if the admins "freeze" threads that are reposts ONCE a link to the earlier post in the correct section has been established in the reposted thread so that people can follow that link to the appropiate section/post and continue the discussion there to keep things more focused. Maybe that is idealistic of me to think that is possible, but if that was implemented, it could be useful. For what is worth, it was a great call by the admins to establish the M3 vs ... section. It really helped. Cheers.
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02-09-2008, 03:02 PM | #24 |
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I kind of agree, but how much does a used 430 cost? And how much does a new Ferrari transmission cost installed? If we look at that ratio, I suspect that the cost of the transmission would not be exactly negligible even to someone who can afford a used 430 unless they simply are loaded to the degree that they don't care, but then why are they buying a used car? Regardless, you might be right in the sense that a 430 buyer, used or new, might not be thinking in those terms and doing that kind of math. I don't know much about miles on a used Ferrari; you most likely know more about that than I do, and you are right in the sense that this might not be a major issue in that sense.
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02-09-2008, 03:22 PM | #25 | |
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I know this for fact since I attended UTI in AZ 4 yrs ago and the only mention of a revolutionary new duel clutch tranny was coming from Audi and we had full insight of what BMW was doing...the SMG tranny. Just giving Audi their due.
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02-09-2008, 03:52 PM | #26 | |
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Many of the buyers finance them with interest only loans because of the appreciation, kind of like the housing market in some areas. Of course, that didn't go so well. Mileage and accidents will make a value of a F car drop very fast. It doesn't matter how good the repair is, if it's on record it'll depreciate 15-20%. |
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02-09-2008, 03:58 PM | #27 | |
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Having said that, on a somewhat tangential note, I bet it would cost considerably more than the $8-10k option price to have a new F1 transmission installed in a 430. |
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02-09-2008, 04:10 PM | #28 | |
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I know what I would be tell Ferrari. GO F--K YOURSELF, I'M BUYING A LAMBORGHINI INSTEAD. |
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02-10-2008, 12:34 PM | #31 | |
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02-10-2008, 01:33 PM | #32 | |
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Besides that I'm touched that you're concerned with my life. But do yourself a favor and don't worry so much about other people while losing sight of your own wants. I'm honestly sorry you never could forgive me for blaming your R8 praise; since then every post of mine may harass you. Here was hope we could get over it. Best regards, south |
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02-10-2008, 01:46 PM | #33 | |
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Regarding the topic of the thread, I'm surprised that MB has lagged so much on a DSG type of transmission. I think the M3 has a tremendous edge over the C63 right now and will still maintain that even when MB drops their new transmission into the C63. The M-DCT has definitely pushed me into the M3 camp and I can't wait to get one this fall. |
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02-10-2008, 02:19 PM | #34 | |
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Anyway you're right and I'll do my best to stay on topic at this wrong section repost thread: I wonder if the torque plays a role here. Is there a DCT transmission ready to go into production which can handle 630NM? Best regards, south Last edited by southlight; 02-10-2008 at 02:36 PM.. Reason: gblansten was so kind to point out wrong spelling |
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02-10-2008, 02:31 PM | #35 | |
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02-11-2008, 04:06 AM | #37 |
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So is this bloody gearbox single or double clutch system??
FFS, that press report is such a bullshit. Cannot quite understand why Benz resorted to stupid and confusing wording like that.
From what I read, I understand is is a SINGLE clutch system just like SMG. So I thing MB went the wrong way... This system is outdated now and will die soon. And what is "double clutching" anyway? |
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02-11-2008, 09:25 AM | #39 | |
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I think this is the system being favoured for the new RS5. |
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02-11-2008, 10:19 AM | #40 | |
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02-11-2008, 10:36 AM | #41 |
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When it comes to automatic transmissions few companies have their skills so I reckon if Mercedes has decided to go for a SMG style box they have their reasons, but I would say that they version will be miles better than the SMG3 that BMW have in their M5 and M6.
P.S. Swamp did you notices that they choose to offer only 4 modes with their version, that means it's already better. (Joke). |
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02-11-2008, 02:52 PM | #42 |
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mercedes doesnt need to offer a dual clutch setup. theyre running a business, and their target demographic of middle aged white people with alot of money buy the cars for comfort mostly. thats the appeal of the mercedes, is the effortless speed and smoothness. the auto boxes they have accomplish that very well. in a mercedes there isnt any drama and there never will be, which is good or bad depending on your taste.
to guess, i would say this new type of tranny will be on AMG models only, possibly only the high end ones, and cost a pretty penny. |
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