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      07-08-2008, 11:21 AM   #45
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C'mon guys... I know the 3er crowd is all about a dolla for a dolla but you buy an ///M and you're concern with gas mileage, geez.

Soon BMW will address your gasoline needs (DynamicEfficiency) and the car will get heavier/lighter, longer'shorter, etc... and there's one more thing you will complain about. Gimmany Crickets..

No more for me... These threads are tearing me apart!!

Nah, but seriously, You Bought an ///M... And I am by no means Mr. Money bags, I just know what to expect coming into a purchase like the ///M.
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      07-08-2008, 11:56 AM   #46
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what do you have on your 335 for 400HP?
I have PROcede V2.

Dynoed 330 awhp which translates into aproximately 400hp crank.
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C'mon guys... I know the 3er crowd is all about a dolla for a dolla but you buy an ///M and you're concern with gas mileage, geez.

Soon BMW will address your gasoline needs (DynamicEfficiency) and the car will get heavier/lighter, longer'shorter, etc... and there's one more thing you will complain about. Gimmany Crickets..

No more for me... These threads are tearing me apart!!

Nah, but seriously, You Bought an ///M... And I am by no means Mr. Money bags, I just know what to expect coming into a purchase like the ///M.
It's not the cost to operate that irks me as much as the inefficient technology. To me, buying an M means I should be getting the pinnacle of technology, which means we should have direct injection. The '09 Porsche 997S is getting direct injection which simultaneously raises the HP and the MPG. Don't get me wrong, the M motor is an amazing piece of engineering, it is just disappointing it isn't more efficient.
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      07-08-2008, 01:38 PM   #48
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      07-08-2008, 01:43 PM   #49
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It's not the cost to operate that irks me as much as the inefficient technology. To me, buying an M means I should be getting the pinnacle of technology, which means we should have direct injection. The '09 Porsche 997S is getting direct injection which simultaneously raises the HP and the MPG. Don't get me wrong, the M motor is an amazing piece of engineering, it is just disappointing it isn't more efficient.
the percentage of the fuelcosts overall is small, therefor this doesnt really matter driving a sportscar.

my observation with my (sold ) Boxster were decreasing fuelconsumption with increasing age(and milage): from 14.7mpg to nearly 20mpg on a mixed autobahn voyage of around 200km ( 120miles).
also the mpg is better at 70 than 60 mph ( 26mpg , 24mpg)
cant explain why...

as stated above the way of driving is crucial for the mpg, and of course the mileage of the car.

does anyone know how to get the best mpg with the dkg m3? 70mph in 7th gear without any breaking? just some days left till i get my baby...
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It seems to be gettign better over time.

Using Aral Ultimate 100 or Shell V-Power Racing 100 and driving in mixed condtions on PSC+ tyres I had the following fuel consumption:

1. Up to 2000km average 21l/100km

2. From 2000km to 6000km roughly 18,5l/100km

3. I am at 8500 now and getting 16,20l/100km

I dont think it will get any better from here. At the same time 16,2l/100 in a 415hp car sounds fair to me. Bigger tank would be nice tho. It is not the lightest car anyway and they could squeeze in additional 15l. Would make life much easier.

Btw. A colleague fo mine in an RS4 stays above 19l/100km all the time.

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Id still like to know why BMW M did not try to implement direct injection for this engine. Maybe they were too lazy?
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C'mon guys... I know the 3er crowd is all about a dolla for a dolla but you buy an ///M and you're concern with gas mileage, geez.

Soon BMW will address your gasoline needs (DynamicEfficiency) and the car will get heavier/lighter, longer'shorter, etc... and there's one more thing you will complain about. Gimmany Crickets..

No more for me... These threads are tearing me apart!!

Nah, but seriously, You Bought an ///M... And I am by no means Mr. Money bags, I just know what to expect coming into a purchase like the ///M.
You need to read the thread from the beginning. NOBODY mentioned dollars. We are concerned with frequent fill-ups. There is no reason to have a 14mpg car. 414 HP can be achieved and still reach 18-24mpg.

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I picked up my car in Munich today drove it to Frankfurt.
On the 260 mile drive, I averaged about 19.2 mpg, doing about 85 mph for the most part.

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I picked up my car in Munich today drove it to Frankfurt.
On the 260 mile drive, I averaged about 19.2 mpg, doing about 85 mph for the most part.
3 stops for gas?

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I get way better in my M6 cabrio.. closer to 16mpg. this thing has topped out at 13.6mpg for me. It is disappointing. And for me, it IS THE $$$ THAT PISSES ME OFF! If anyone is implying that they dont mind paying $200 a week in gas for this thing, then they are lying. I cringe when I put my CC in the pump.
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I get way better in my M6 cabrio.. closer to 16mpg. this thing has topped out at 13.6mpg for me. It is disappointing. And for me, it IS THE $$$ THAT PISSES ME OFF! If anyone is implying that they dont mind paying $200 a week in gas for this thing, then they are lying. I cringe when I put my CC in the pump.
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I have 1,500 miles and am averaging 14.6 City. No big highway trips yet.
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You need to read the thread from the beginning. NOBODY mentioned dollars. We are concerned with frequent fill-ups. There is no reason to have a 14mpg car. 414 HP can be achieved and still reach 18-24mpg.
I read the post. Don't be angry... Go drive your M3 and take out your frustrations on the road, then fill up. Go out and drive once again. Fill up again. Log on to the post and you'll see me posting a few more times. It's okay man, calm down... It's an ///M. Nuff said IMO.
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Id still like to know why BMW M did not try to implement direct injection for this engine. Maybe they were too lazy?
M cars are and hopefully will stay naturally aspirated, like any proper race inspired car should.
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Becareful on the new pumps. They pump extrememly fast with air bubble creators which will read 11.9 gallons but in actually you only pumped 11 gallons. Some pumps have 3 clicks. Go between the first click and off position. Pump very slowly , top it off and then try again the 2nd time to calculate your milege. Fast pumping also cause foam in your tank which leads you to believe your tank is full but its not. I feel many of these factors has scewed your calculation. If you reset your BMW the computer should be very accurate.
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Enjoy it now, soon NA engines might be history.... Twin turbo V8 M5 on the horizon?
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I get way better in my M6 cabrio.. closer to 16mpg. this thing has topped out at 13.6mpg for me. It is disappointing. And for me, it IS THE $$$ THAT PISSES ME OFF! If anyone is implying that they dont mind paying $200 a week in gas for this thing, then they are lying. I cringe when I put my CC in the pump.
Gas prices are higher, yes this is true. I am not sure anyone has implied any such thing... Spending money on something like gas to run your car of choice can and will become a burden for some... This is the reason for initial post and subsequent posts. Oh, and to say if someone enjoys paying $200 a week for gasoline assumes on your part that some folks do not have the expendable cash flow to do it. Assumes on your part that the person doesn't have a vested interest in the up tic of crude oil cost. Assumes on your part that $200 a week is nothing to someone who spend $200 a day or $400 a week but doesn't mind because it's for a reason and perhaps the overall cost can be liability and used for tax adjustment purposes... Just saying.

I guess it's all good to know what others get (MPG wise) but with so many variables, I find it hard for any one to accurately compare. A guest-ta-ment is cool too but consider these items below as factors which allow my numbers to be totally different +/- than the next person.

Type of gas
Temperature
Flat lands
Hills
Twisty
Mountains
Acceleration
Car + additional weight
Stop-n-go traffic
Idling
Windows open
AC on
Heat on
Lights on
Worn tires
Improperly inflated tires
People do not accurately read their MPG usage
People lie about their MPG (Who knows why)

Etc... so on and so fourth...
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M cars are and hopefully will stay naturally aspirated, like any proper race inspired car should.
I agree. I prefer a NA any day. I just like their inner workings better. Nothing wrong with a TwinTurbo or Supercharger but NA is so clean...
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I read the post. Don't be angry... Go drive your M3 and take out your frustrations on the road, then fill up. Go out and drive once again. Fill up again. Log on to the post and you'll see me posting a few more times. It's okay man, calm down... It's an ///M. Nuff said IMO.
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You guys should not complain, us S85 guys are getting 9.8. So yes, single digits. I get on a good day 210 miles per tank.
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You need to read the thread from the beginning. NOBODY mentioned dollars. We are concerned with frequent fill-ups. There is no reason to have a 14mpg car. 414 HP can be achieved and still reach 18-24mpg.
Sounds like you should sell your car.

It is getting to you too much.

Honestly you wouldn't lose that much money.

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You guys should not complain, us S85 guys are getting 9.8. So yes, single digits. I get on a good day 210 miles per tank.
Exactly

You really need to know what your buying.
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