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Tell me about it. I loved when I had just the 3 series. Its fun to wax it and just look at it. People called me crazy for spending hours on the weekend cleaning it. Everyone deserves something to be happy about IMHO.
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08-31-2013, 08:40 PM | #46 |
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It definitely is perfect for what it was made to do, which is just about everything lol. I think the right move is to keep it and get something additional for the garage to compliment it. Im looking to add another one to my stable again one day and I cant wait! Cheers
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I feel the same way, had an e90 m3 back in 2009 then got a 2010 GT-R then a 2011 C63 and im back where i started. I have never felt more at home than in the M3 and shes a keeper. I love the balance, the sound, the look and that she can be a track monster when i need to and a precise street toy as well.
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It's a good dilemma to have. I do regretted selling my M3 a bit and am not sure if I made the right step into a Porsche. I would imagine the next car after the M3 would be something far more superior..(some would argue that the m3 is still better )
Everything I would consider 'better' than the M3 is easily 100k+..I would probably look at GT3 (yeah its PDK ) R8 V10 6MT 911S GTR (more or less my next car if not a 911 variant) Everything else I would want is much, much more expensive. IMO, the M3 really is that good.
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I agree with OP. its a perfect blend of everything and thats why its so great. Road trip? Check. Luggage? Check. Rear seats that actually work? Check. Haul ass on the hwy? Check. Take it to the track? Check. Torque? YES! Lol.
Regarding profession, my dad was triple board certified and was practicing, then went onto teaching at UCLA med school, then got into research - headed the NIH in asia. Now he has a high position with a leading pharmaceutical company spearheading its biotechnology development/investments. He was bored with being with patients everyday lol. There are many opportunities out there! Good luck! Now, I'm curious as to what the f10 M5 and f13 M6 deliver with that much more refinement and that much more power. |
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HA! Glad I'm not the only one with this problem. I usually switch cars every year to 18 months, and after looking around and doing some test driving, it looks like my E90 is not going anywhere soon.
I'll just pay this baby off in a couple years and pick up a nice low mileage CPO C4S.
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I share your sentiments on the m3. I have historically kept cars for 2 years on average. I kept my first M3 (e90) for 4 years and I just got my second one in January (e92). I still love the car. There are many cars that I would love to have as a second car but the M3 as an all-around do everything car can not be beat. I even drove my E90 year-round when I lived in MN.
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I absolutely loved my M3. Fantastic car. Like many others, I had the itch to try something new after having it ~4 years. I'm not one of those people who blows through cars and changing them out monthly and I had my heart set on a GTR. I had always had the desire to pick it up but got absolutely sick and tired of looking for a used, clean one (budget was around ~85k, didn't want to go higher than that)...the dealerships that had them were insane in their asking prices and most of them are sitting on them, trying to sell them for more than they are worth. Very annoying to deal with these people..especially when most don't know a damn thing about the GTR. Turned to the Cayman. Looked awesome and loved it initially..struggling to really convey my current feelings for the car. In comparison to the M3, IMHO, to me, it's not that exciting. Granted I did get the PDK while my M3 was a 6MT..definitely have some regrets for not going with the 6MT and I'm not one of those die hard enthusiasts who are adamant for this transmission. In corners that I would take my M3 in, the porsche definitely hesitates a bit more. Somewhat flimsy--it doesn't feel as planted as the M. I realize that it is lighter than my m3, but still, I expected more out of the car through corners. It's fun to toss around but I feel as I can reach the limits in the porsche faster and easier than the M3..could be a good thing or bad thing, depending on how you look at it. I always had 4 seater cars, the porsche is my first 2 seater. I'm not a very big person but I still feel cramped/crowed in the porsche. Didn't consider this a factor since I have an IS350 as a DD but it's annoying when I want to make a quick trip to the grocery store, etc. Engine is very uninspiring at lower RPMs. This was expected..I didn't think I would miss the V8 as much as I do. Power is there and is on par with the M but just doesn't feel like it. I had modded my M3 (full exhaust) so maybe that had something to do with it. The ride..holy SHIT I didn't think it would be this rough. I opted for the 20 inch wheels and didn't get the PASM. I didn't think it would be as rough as it is. Definitely my mistake so I can't blame the car for being so rough, my fault entirely. So now I'm here at a crossroads and have two options. Mod my Porsche and hope that the trivial things I dislike will change or I will get used to Sell the Cayman and get a GTR black edition like I've always wanted. I know most of my concerns are 'first world problems' but I don't think the Cayman S is a substantial upgrade from the M3. I think if you are cross shopping the two and have different criterias, it's definitely a contender. I just expected my next car to be leaps and bounds better than my M3....unfortunately that was not the case. Again this is just my opinion and I'm sure many others will differ but I wanted to be honest. I like the car but I'm not sure if I'll keep it for as long as I have kept others. Let me know if you have questions
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My cayman just hit 2000 miles so I'm going to open her up a bit more and hopefully I will love it more than I do now. It is just so frustrating coming from my M3, but you're right. It's such a different car. I also do not like the attention I've been getting the car...especially at the hospital. I didn't think this car would be as ostentatious as it is. I know a GTR won't be much better to car enthusiasts, but still..it is a nissan! Hopefully with some mods the car will grow on me. If not... I'm adding a GTR to the stable Quote:
I think the M3 is definitely a good balance, it is difficult to find an all around car that is better than the M3
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But in the right hands, the m5/6 can tear up a track, but yeah, i agree not the tight narrow twisties! I thought throttle response was not lost somehow with the turbos in the f10/13? Chris harris you liar! |
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Modding the Cayman is unlikely to help IMHO. Power wise, you can't squeeze much power out of NA engine despite of vendors' claim (sky is the limit OTOH for turbo's because of boost manipulation). Handling wise, the only thing I would do is to switch out that 20 rim for a better ride, AND better handling (20" wheel's stiffness hurts compliance and road contact). Sound wise, after-market exhaust is better, but won't solve your power problem. What Cayman is about is purity of a mid-engine, light-weight sports car, with pure and telepathic steering, extremely fast and clean turn-in that only a mid-engine car could do. In curves, it gives feedback from the tires extremely well - best in business to me. The light steering is considered among world's best; once you are used to it, other cars' steering will feel heavy and dead in comparison. Among Porsche fans, many are aware that Cayman is indeed Porsche's purest and very best handling car. In fact, to me mid-engine Cayman absolutely kills the handling of my rear-engine 911 on twisty roads, those left right left combinations. To truly enjoy the Cayman, where handling and steering feel are the emphasis, not power, you have to take it to canyon road or at the track; take it to the limit and it would be a shining star. The twistier the road, the better it would shine. On city roads, I do understand why it may not as exciting because of the lack of power compared to the gem-like V8 of the M3. This I believe is one difference between M3 and Cayman: M3 is fun both at track and on city street (the best!), whereas Cayman is more fun the closer you take it to the limit on twisty roads. For the all-important "what's next question," IMHO: As mentioned I love my M3 and 911 Turbo and are keeping them long term; not one is "better" than the others because they are totally differnt cars and serve different purposes. That said, if you ask me for my "automotive bucket list," it would include a powerful NA V8 or V10 car such as current M3, a powerful Turbo such as Porsche Turbo or Nissan GTR, and a mid or rear engine car such as 911 or better yet, Cayman. Transmission wise, the bucket list would include both manual and dual clutch. If I could afford it, I would keep all cars ; if not, I would own them sequentially according to family and age demand, for example M3 early and late (when your back won't allow you to crawl into a low car any more), Cayman/911 in the middle, and when kids are older, etc. The idea is to enjoy and taste all the differences that this motorsports hobby gives you, and not to commit to any one brand forever. Now that I have M3 (a fantastic car!), next gen Cayman is actually next on my list. It is to me one of the best and "purest" sports cars on market; strong points are incredible steering and mid-engine handling, reliability, and most affordable mid-engine chassis (a steal imo), weak points are not enough power and very limited interior space. Last edited by cannga; 09-01-2013 at 03:20 PM.. |
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That pretty much sums it up.
I had a 2008 E92 M3, sold it and went car shopping. Gave serious thoughts about a brand new GTR, used 997 GT3. Got quite close to sealing the deal on the GTR but decided that I needed more rear leg room for occasional Airport Pick Ups. Needed more boot space. It wasn't that the GTR's boot space wasn't sufficient but rather the boot gap is relatively small. As for the used 997 GT3, its pretty much an impulse thought. I mean if I'm complaining about the GTR's leg room and boot space, the 997 is definitely out of the question. So I went back and bought a brand new 2013 E92 ZCP M3 with 5 years warranty and call it a day. |
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Anyway I completely agree with LarThaL. The car is sublime and long trips are NEVER long enough in this car. I too now feel dialed into the car and don't even think about another car unless I'm not sitting in this one. I don't yearn for any additional performance either because I can't use ALL that I have now on public roads. Or at least I shouldn't. Perfect car...Maybe, I can't think of any other car that does everything as well and is a true daily driver.
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I agree, i look at what is coming out. and say they just don't make a cars like our E92 m3 anymore. I just love the engine, how its sounds and revs. I LOVE the seats and interior feel. I like my full loaded interior better than a new M5 interior or any other BMW.
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