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get the m3. the cayman s was fun but time to "upgrade"
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Very interesting, can you expound on that?
Especially since you have both cars for a little bit? Yep.
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My biggest beef with the P-Car is the lack of quality in the build. There are lot of interior panels with noticeable gaps and the hand crafted precision is severely lacking. Everything feels super cheap and boring in the cockpit of a racing machine. Also, I'm a big guy and the bucket seats are not fun with lumbar support past a 2 hour drive. A lot of Cayman owners actually trade up to GT3 seats to overcome this problem at $800 a pop. My Cayman S also has no LSD which was before the 2009 conversion. The recent development of the Cayman R has spruced things up a bit but the fact that the car is limited and can never exceed the performance of a 911 is like letting a kid in the candy shop and he can't eat anything. My other beef with the cayman S is that it attracts too much attention. I've made the mistake of driving my cayman S to clubs in San Francisco and I've had everything from little asian gangsters kicking my side mirror to getting keyed. Plus, being a young 29 year old man, I get nothing but Cougar/Milfs hitting on me everyday. In the 3 years of ownership, 100% of the women that come up to me are over 40. Hahaha. A fact that my now girlfriend finds hilarious for some reason. I'm looking forward to the realistic cost for modding my M3 to make it my own. I'm also looking forward to the abundant supercharger kits. There's way more options to mod. I also like the fact that I can put two people in the back seat and pick up more than one person from the airport. It's more practical. The M3 can be a beast and a DD. And that's what I need. If you asked me if I'll get a P-Car again in the future, then I'd say yes. Great car designed for the track. For everything else, there's the M3. I tried to get a GTR but have met really shady Nissan salesmen that have made me lose interest completely. Just my 2 cents. To each their own.
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Thanks for the post. Interesting perspective.
Admittedly, I am more of a corner vs. straight line guy myself. That is after owning a big HP Supra Turbo, C5 Z06, C6, etc. and going to a Lotus Elise, and then the Cayman S. I'll take handling over power most of the time, and live in a region where there are very few truly straight roads - especially when it comes to backroads. Secondly, that's not the first I've heard in this thread regarding the build quality. I guess I have a different perspective on that too. I have full leather which I realize helps A LOT. But as far as fit and finish, I couldn't be happier with my Cayman S and I think it's a huge step up in quality compared to my E90 sedan. Everything feels more solid and better put together. No gaps, perfect fit. None of the creaking over bumps. I have the sport seats too, which I love. As mentioned before, the only thing I don't like is the plastic used on certain interior parts that chips/scratches way too easily. As far as attention, my car definitely gets a lot - but it's usually in the form of an enthusiastic thumbs up, compliment at a gas station, someone yelling "awesome!" out the window. Happens surprisingly often. Never bad attention. I think the fact that it's red with black wheels helps it stand out compared to other Caymans. No real attention from women though, either young or old. They don't seem to care in these parts. I've had a few younger girls yell stuff out the window, semi-dirty stuff - but that's about it. They might be jaded around here as there's a lot of money in this area and Porsches are fairly common. I'm 28 FWIW. Then again I have a girlfriend, so I'm not using it as a magnet at the moment. But I always tell my friends, "you can't wear your car into a bar". It can only really help if you're already 90% there and need to seal the deal. Amirite? I've actually heard a lot of mixed things about the GTR. I'd like to test drive one, but from descriptions it sounds like a car I wouldn't like.
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That said, I too, as above cant substaniate quality claims as the cayman S in my experience has better quality as well as fit and finish than the m3. The m3 is decent but there are far too many gaps (inside and panel gaps outside; see all the threads!) and creaks and rattles for a car as heavy as this is, with as much sound insulation, and the fact that the suspension is soft compared to the stiffer cayman S. I have several friends who have done the m3 to cayman or the reverse and noticed the same. |
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No worries. I wrestled with keeping the cayman for a while. But that big horsepower draw is an addicting factor. I also like the fact that I can see the engine... haha.
And my m3 will see a supercharger kit in the future for that straight line performance. =)
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I was also going to say a SC would do just the trick!
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Too many idiots posting in this thread about it have never even driven one. The chasis alone is far superior to any chasis bmw has ever made...not to mention the many other level it far outdoes anything bmw in (handling, steering, balance, etc, etc, etc). The 991 is on a different level though. The 991 has stepped the game to another level as the benchmark sports car/exotic. |
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Blah, get the m3 if you want but you will sacrifice a more things than you gain... Also, get the DCT and not the EDC
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I've driven a boxter on a track and like the M3 much better. I hate the shifter and steering feel of the boxter and the interior feels really cheap. Obviously it is subjective, but I'd rather drive the M3 on the track. My 2 cents...
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As for the thread, I've decided to keep the Cayman, at least until around summer time - at which time I'll reevaluate and see where used 2009 M3's prices are. I feel like they're a little high at the moment and am curious to see where they go when they start coming off lease en masse.
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I think it was a 2006 boxter, but I've been in others, as well. I just don't like the skinney steering wheel and the steering feel and ride. It lacks a certain "fluidity" I don't know how to describe it will, and its been several years since I drove it, but I felt like it was too "twitchy"
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You may as well say the M3 is the poor mans car when compared with other BMW high end models offered ... Come on now fellows ... we drive the M3 because we like it and it is by far not a poor mans car ... the other Porsche models are simply higher end Porsches like the higher end BMW's the statement "Poor Man's Car" is an understatement if I ever heard one ...
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I did see a new all blacked out Cayman R and it was like $80k. After being disappointed by the 2007 Cayman S I opted not to even look at the 2012 Cayman R. For that price you are getting into the 2005, 2006-2007 Lamborghini Gallardo range which I would gladly take over ANY Cayman. So now having said that I bought the M3 and in OEM form the exterior needs a lot of work. Interior is done. On the Porsche Cayman S the exterior was awesome but the interior needed a lot of work. So for me these cars boil down to preference really... You can't say anything negative about the OVERALL package of both. And honestly the Cayman S or Cayman R is the rival of the BMW E86M (Z4MC or Z4MR) in reality, not the E92 M3.
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