May 2008 Car & Driver: M3 vs. IS-F (spoiler warning)

Minimization · 03-30-2008, 11:52 AM

Just got the magazine yesterday- sorry if this is a repost. The M3 was a Sedan, MT6, had EDC, and 19" wheels. The M3 won of course.

data:

0-60 mi/hr: 4.1 s
0-100 mi/hr: 9.8 s
0-150 mi/hr: 24.9 s
1/4 mi: 12.6 s @ 113 mi/hr
5-60 mi/hr: 5.4 s
30-50 mi/hr: 7.8 s
50-70 mi/hr: 6.2 s
70-0 mi/hr: 161 ft
gov. lim. top speed: 161 mi/hr
328 ft skid pad acceleration: 0.95g
lane change speed: 69.6 mi/hr
curb mass: 3680 lb
observed fuel economy: 16 mi/gal

The car they tested was Melbourne Red on Fox Red (extended?) with Carbon Leather. I really though this combination looked hot in the pictures; very "M3" specific too. By the way, this test is separate from the M3 Sedan data that they released last month, I think.

J.

mhutchins14 · 03-30-2008, 12:18 PM

4.1 0-60 is strong. I think that is the second or third confirmed time!!! I was hoping the 0-100 would be closer to 9.5 but oh well...

rai · 03-30-2008, 12:27 PM

I do like to see the 0-100 and 0-150 times. Not that I drive that fast but sometimes it's more information than the 0-60

C&D M3 coupe did 9.8s and 24.3s

SO the times are fairly close.

Can't wait to see if the DCT is any quicker

Breyton E36 · 03-30-2008, 12:28 PM

How about some IS-F numbers?

sayemthree · 03-30-2008, 12:32 PM

the Coupe should hit 100 in 9.5 then? how about some Is numbers to see "who would it be owned who"?

sayemthree · 03-30-2008, 12:32 PM

scan and post the full article?

ybbiz34 · 03-30-2008, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayemthree

the Coupe should hit 100 in 9.5 then? how about some Is numbers to see "who would it be owned who"?

The sedan they tested was faster than the coupe.

Garissimo · 03-30-2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayemthree

the Coupe should hit 100 in 9.5 then? how about some Is numbers to see "who would it be owned who"?

Through some freak act of our mail system, I've had this issue for over a week now. I thought it was already posted in the VS. section so I held off posting numbers. Anyhoo, here are the numbers:

-----IS-F (M3)
0-60 4.4 (4.1)
0-100 10.0 (9.8)
0-150 25.0 (24.9)
1/4mile 12.8@114 (12.6@113)
Braking 166 (161)
Skidpad 0.92 (0.95)
---
Laguna Seca 1:45.10 (1:44.10)*

*C/D admits that the test driver messed up taking the M3 through the corkscrew and would have had a faster time

As someone else noted, the sedan is a Melbourne red with fox red interior and the 19" wheels and it looks GOOD.

Minimization · 03-30-2008, 12:55 PM

Okay, I will try to scan it this afternoon. I can't wait to see what the M DCT does. Screw the IS-F; it does well but only beats the M3 in the torque numbers (5-60, 30-50, 50-70, etc.).

gorun · 03-30-2008, 02:33 PM

Good numbers! Cant wait to see the E92 DCT data

nechronics · 03-30-2008, 05:59 PM

I don't have a scanner to scan it, but after reading it - one comment that caught me off guard:

Quote:

One can seemingly plant this car anywhere, thanks to progressive brakes and steering that's a benchmark of feel.

skierman64 · 03-30-2008, 06:25 PM

Did the sedan have a sunroof? If so that would account for part of the extra 130 lbs that this car weighed over the forum member who weighed his coupe at 3550.

sayemthree · 03-30-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

The sedan they tested was faster than the coupe.

are you saying they tested a Coupe with this same sedan, same day, same conditions?

Quote:

-----IS-F (M3)
0-60 4.4 (4.1)
0-100 10.0 (9.8)
0-150 25.0 (24.9)
1/4mile 12.8@114 (12.6@113)
Braking 166 (161)
Skidpad 0.92 (0.95)
---
Laguna Seca 1:45.10 (1:44.10)*

nice - its a pretty close drag race with the M3 getting out in front and then the Lexus still trying to catch up by 155 mph.

and the M3 is a full second faster around the track - nice - even with a screw up.

ersin · 03-30-2008, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skierman64

Did the sedan have a sunroof? If so that would account for part of the extra 130 lbs that this car weighed over the forum member who weighed his coupe at 3550.

Or could it be with a driver, accounting for 130 lbs? With a sunroof I wouldn't think more than 40 plus the extra 25 lbs the sedan has over the coupe. Maybe options could account.

SHADY1 · 03-30-2008, 10:51 PM

So much for the so called M3 killer. R.I.P. IS-F

I don't care how close the numbers are...... a Win is a Win and the M3 is it

sayemthree · 03-30-2008, 10:57 PM

who would owned who? M3 vs IS-F - vote now....

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=129066&page=3

hellrotm · 03-31-2008, 02:16 AM

IS-F already got WORKED!!!!

It got so worked in the Motor Trend test, there is really no need for another comparison.

Comparo Laptimes:

M3 - 154.2 sec.

C63 - 158.0 - 3.8 sec. back

IS-F - 158.6 - 4.4 sec. back

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_16.html

Minimization · 03-31-2008, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ersin

Or could it be with a driver, accounting for 130 lbs? With a sunroof I wouldn't think more than 40 plus the extra 25 lbs the sedan has over the coupe. Maybe options could account.

This is the first time I have seen an E9x Sedan weigh more than 50 lb over the E9x Coupe. I think there is a mistake. C&D had two other mistakes in this article. They claimed that the engine hit red line at 8,300/min and you could not buy EDC without the Technology Package.

sayemthree · 03-31-2008, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

IS-F already got WORKED!!!!

It got so worked in the Motor Trend test, there is really no need for another comparison.

Comparo Laptimes:

M3 - 154.2 sec.

C63 - 158.0 - 3.8 sec. back

IS-F - 158.6 - 4.4 sec. back

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_16.html

NICE find!!!

GregW / Oregon · 03-31-2008, 11:22 AM

I just scanned and posted the whole article. Actually, this should have gone in the "M3 vs. ..." section. I will link it there.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...06#post2396206

KonigsTiger · 03-31-2008, 02:45 PM

Thanks! Nice review!!!

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Minimization Private First Class 14 Rep 155 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW M5 Sedan SMG III Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA iTrader: (0)	Okay, I will try to scan it this afternoon. I can't wait to see what the M DCT does. Screw the IS-F; it does well but only beats the M3 in the torque numbers (5-60, 30-50, 50-70, etc.). __________________ 2006 BMW M5 Sedan SMG III Silverstone Metallic/Black Perforated Merino/Aluminum, X2/4MA/610/322/453/655/416/465/261/496
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