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Different strokes...
I love a super charger or turbo... I just think the 1M shouldnt be in the family of M... but then again, if you look at it...its the M of the 1 series.... 1M Top 1 Series M3 Top 3 series M5 Top 5 series M6 Top 6 series... There is no difference but everyone was just pissed because it was turbo this time and not N-A... I still dont like it because its vibe isnt coming off as natural. Just like the 335, that was a marketing technique.
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If some of the rumors/news is true then it sounds like turbos may be the future of ///M.
The 1M may just be a pioneer in that area. I think it looks like a blast to drive and harkens back to the smaller, faster cars in BMW's heritage. Since our 3's are now the size of the old 5's and whatnot. I'm not in the market for one as I just ordered my new M3 for ED in August. But I really want to drive one once. Especially since my N54 335i has been so much fun. I'm just curious to see how it feels with a slight HP bump in a smaller package. For that matter I want to drive the 335is once too.... Doesn't change the fact that I'm grinning from ear to ear about getting my first M3 Maybe because I'll be brand new into the ///M club, I'm just not as passionate about the NA-vs-Turbo debate.... |
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No doubt the fun of taking a very responsive high revving V8 to its limits is grin inducing in its own right. I myself prefer the high revving engines of M5, M6 and M3. But the cost of such indulgence is too severe in daily driving with gas mileage near 14 mpg city with the stop and go feature.
The way it comes out right now is 1.3K in red line in exchange for additional 6 mpg. I think with ever increasing gas prices at this point the cost of modding and owning an M3 is very steep compared to the 1M. To some it makes no difference but to majority it does. If 1M was offered with the DCT it would have even appealed to greater public here in NA. Because it would have been more family friendly as many wife's refuse to touch 6-spd. Regardless, if you have a well full of money dug up in your back yard M3 If that is not the case then 1M It is different strokes for different folks. Quote:
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I opened up the magazine and jumped straight to the feature, eager to see the 1M completely humiliate the Audi. But it apparently was wet at least during some part of the test, and they said the 1M was twitchy and could not put the power down - that in fact they were surprised at how much quicker the RS3 was in real world driving. From personal experience the M3 positively shines in the wet, so this does give me a little cause for concern. At this stage without any of us having actually driven the car or directly compared it to an M3 (or other cars in a similar performance category), we're left with (sometimes contradictory) second hand accounts. Then there's the launch strategy with demonstrators available to dealers, question marks about engine reliability etc. I don't even want to address styling, that's so personal. Not all the people on this forum are fanboys, insecure or whatever else you're trying paint them. Some of us are just a bit skeptical, on the healthy side of it. Nothing wrong with that, right?
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My biggest gripe is Steptronic + DSC/DCT simply does not work, the car has no proper way of transferring all that power down without simply cutting the power and telling you to try again. That's what I'm most looking forward to in the M, a DSC that allows you to shake your booty out a little without having to worry about losing power.
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All seems very logical.
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No track testing or acceleration tests were done by in the review. The 0-60 times for both cars given in the review were the manufacturer's claims. Not to mention at the end of the day the 1M easily wins the comparison by being the better drivers car. Read much? I understand some of you need to make up for having small cocks, but this is ridiculous. The M3 is one of the best cars I've ever driven, and it for sure on my list of must-own-in-my-lifetime cars along with the GT3; but theres no need to take anything away from the 1M. Afraid you're going to get overtaken by one at your local track or the local mountain twisties? In it's price range, there's really nothing that is as fast and good to drive. Just like in the M3's price range, there's really nothing that is as fast and good to drive. (as even the cayman R is more expensive than a M3 where I'm from) We're all car enthusiasts here; tons of torque, same diff, same brakes... on a lighter car How is it so hard for some of you guys to understand that in some situations (small tight tracks) it would be possible for the 1M to pull ahead? |
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The RS3 is nothing to play with to be honest...
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Looks wise, yeah, it's even gaudier than a 135i, which barely passes for handsome itself to most people. Not classically proportioned like an E46M, rather a little cartoonish and freakish looking. (I happen to think my TiAg 135i M-sport is tastefully shaped and well-proportioned for such a small car, but I'm biased obviously.)
Performance wise I'd have to drive one for an extended period, otherwise I'd just be talking out my ass. My one huge concern is that the engine may not have any significantly more "zing" or "woohoo" than a regular N54/N55 135i. Candidly, I find the N55 in my car to be lazy and unresponsive to my right foot, and a little lacking in character...fine for casual cruising or lightly spirited driving, but not up to the task of duty in a car with true sporting intentions that demands "right now" responsiveness. Everything else from the suspension to the brakes to the steering I'm sure is spectacular. I'm just a little skeptical it might be a brilliantly handling go-kart with a massaged truck engine in it. |
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Saw 1M for the first time in person. HP Autowerks in Santa Barbara recently picked up one...oh man...I can't believe those hating on this little monster! Aggressive bodyline, sick exhaust tone, and I'm sure it will be FAST on the track! Sick car!
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I agree. I did not drive it but looks much better in person. I saw a white one at the dealer on Tuesday when we picked up the M3.
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