Audi RS5 confirmed for North America

330CIZHP · 04-02-2010, 07:07 PM

I had mantained right from the beginning that RS5 must be Canada and USA bound considering Audi spent 5 years developing it and emissions, fuel economy was a mere excuse of the naysayers since it is a high-revving V8 engine.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car..._u.s.-car_news

drivendriver · 04-02-2010, 07:32 PM

Now, the key question is: when is it coming?

With the next M3 three years away, if they don't bring the RS5 to the US this year, my feeling is that it will be too little too late.

e46e92love · 04-03-2010, 12:01 AM

I don't like Audi, never have either. But, if they continue to produce high-revving engines for their RS line and bring that line here, I guess with what BMW is doing, I will have no choice but to make the switch.

Either way, kudos to Audi for bringing the RS5 here.

Cheers,
e46e92

330CIZHP · 04-03-2010, 12:19 AM

x 2

They put those in the RS4, V8 R8 and V10 R8. Now the V8 RS5. Audi really knows how to sell race bred engines in performance oriented cars. I am sure Audi will hopefully continue to make new cleaner, efficient race-bred high-revving engines and revolutionize this industry through keeping it from becoming an exotic only territory.

Sadly, M is now all about money and profits while reducing production costs and these days turbos on a low-revving small displacement engine is the perfect way to achieve that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by e46e92love

I don't like Audi, never have either. But, if they continue to produce high-revving engines for their RS line and bring that line here, I guess with what BMW is doing, I will have no choice but to make the switch.

Either way, kudos to Audi for bringing the RS5 here.

Cheers,
e46e92

xxe92xx · 04-03-2010, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e46e92love

I don't like Audi, never have either. But, if they continue to produce high-revving engines for their RS line and bring that line here, I guess with what BMW is doing, I will have no choice but to make the switch.

Either way, kudos to Audi for bringing the RS5 here.

Cheers,
e46e92

i highly doubt that...after BMW and Mercedes make the switch to turbo audi will obviously follow...emissions are getting strict and to get a high revving NA you will need to pay $$$ so that means ferrari, lambo, etc...

drivendriver · 04-03-2010, 08:10 AM

As much as I like high-revving N/A engines, driving an X6M has reassured me. I can live with that kind of turbo engine.

I think a big part of the driving experience is not just how high the engine can rev, but also how quickly it gets there. As long as BMW can make highly responsive engines (despite the taller gearing), I'll be happy.

I had a 135 for a few weeks. I thought that the engine was fantastic, except that it sometimes felt a bit "lazy". I didn't get the same feeling in the X6M. It felt much more eager.

Also, I think people tend to forget the racing heritage of turbo engines.

Fanta · 04-03-2010, 08:54 AM

I have a question. For the price of a RS5, will you buy RS5 or GTR?
Let assume you keep your M3.

Gearhead999s · 04-03-2010, 09:18 AM

I was told on Thursday from a reliable Audi source that the car is coming to Canada as a 2012 Model Year in the calendar year of 2011.I was once positive I would order one,but now that I know how deep in life cycle of the A-S 5 model my enthusiasim is lost.

drivendriver · 04-03-2010, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanta

I have a question. For the price of a RS5, will you buy RS5 or GTR?
Let assume you keep your M3.

Between an RS5 and a GT-R, I would pick the GT-R. But then again, I don't lust for either car. If I were to buy a second car, it would be something smaller, mostly for the track, like a Lotus (I used to have an Elise and wouldn't mind an Elise SC) or even a Caterham. Not going to happen, but one can always dream

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drivendriver · 04-03-2010, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

but now that I know how deep in life cycle of the A-S 5 model my enthusiasim is lost.

That's my feeling too. If it had come out last year, it might have had a big impact. But now I doubt that it will.

Gearhead999s · 04-03-2010, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanta

I have a question. For the price of a RS5, will you buy RS5 or GTR?
Let assume you keep your M3.

I would not even think about a GTR as Nissan dealers are usually among the worst in the business as far as customer service is concerned.

BMW269 · 04-03-2010, 09:56 AM

Many do not like what BMW does, but the proof that what they do is right, is that all the other follow. AMG is going FI, Audi was and continues. They have only one NA engine, and that is the 4.2l V8 with 350 hp. The 420 hp RS4/ R8 V8 and 450 hp RS5 engines are based on the 350 hp engine of S4/S5. The 5.2l V10 engine is Lamborghini. Audi saves very much on engines, as they use VW engines, so they can afford RS engines. New S3, S4, S5, RS6, TT-S, TT-RS are all FI.

Fanta · 04-03-2010, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

I was told on Thursday from a reliable Audi source that the car is coming to Canada as a 2012 Model Year in the calendar year of 2011.I was once positive I would order one,but now that I know how deep in life cycle of the A-S 5 model my enthusiasim is lost.

What exactly you mean "how deep in life cycle of the A-S 5 model"?
Is A-S 5 are base A-S4? Only change from 4 door to 2 door.

mtndog · 04-03-2010, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 330CIZHP

I had mantained right from the beginning that RS5 must be Canada and USA bound considering Audi spent 5 years developing it and emissions, fuel economy was a mere excuse of the naysayers since it is a high-revving V8 engine.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car..._u.s.-car_news

Raod & Track has a different view.
http://blog.roadandtrack.com/audi-rs...ng-to-america/

330CIZHP · 04-03-2010, 11:58 PM

Maybe you should read the article I posted more closely?

Given the following statement:

"With the RS5, the wait is finally over. Audi CEO Rupert Stadler tells us that the upcoming coupe, powered by a naturally aspirated, 450-hp V-8, is U.S.-bound."

I would believe Car and driver seems to have much better connections than Road and Track thank you very much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtndog

Raod & Track has a different view.
http://blog.roadandtrack.com/audi-rs...ng-to-america/

mtndog · 04-04-2010, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 330CIZHP

Maybe you should read the article I posted more closely?

I would believe Car and driver seems to have much better connections than Road and Track thank you very much.

Take it easy. Just giving you another source...like the two below!

And that's funny because they are owned by the same company!

http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-a...-s-shores.html

http://blogs.automobilemag.com/66377...-us/index.html

BMWCadet · 04-04-2010, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxe92xx

i highly doubt that...after BMW and Mercedes make the switch to turbo audi will obviously follow...emissions are getting strict and to get a high revving NA you will need to pay $$$ so that means ferrari, lambo, etc...

Yes, exactly! Everyone's switching to FI so the only way you'll ever get a high revving NA is by purchasing an exotic.

Fanta · 04-04-2010, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWCadet

Yes, exactly! Everyone's switching to FI so the only way you'll ever get a high revving NA is by purchasing an exotic.

Is current M5 a good buy?

330CIZHP · 04-04-2010, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanta

Is current M5 a good buy?

It is kind of old and outdated now (the chassis mostly). However, the S85 V10 in it is a masterpiece.

Interestingly, I will share an experience just two days ago on friday night when my wife and I were coming back from dinner. We actually witnessed an E60 M5 and a 997 Porsche 911 Turbo coming pretty fast in the rearview mirror and pull right beside us at the traffic light in downtown Calgary. The M5 was just right beside us and Turbo beside the M5.

Needless to say as soon as the light turned green, both cars launched like bat out of hell (M5 used launch control and spun like crazy off the line and banged the first gear rev limiter a few times) with the sound of the M5 echoing off the downtown high-rise buildings. Ofcourse, the 997 Turbo beat the E60 M5 in the race which was till the next red light.

However, for the remaining trip back home, my wife and I could not stop talking about how amazing the V10 sounded right beside us when he used launch control and never mentioned a thing about the 997 Turbo since it was instantly forgetable and sounded like a fking vaccum cleaner with nothing but a hissing sound.

The M5 lost, but it was mostly because the M5 is a lot heavier. Not because the much more expensive Turbo has a better engine.

Gearhead999s · 04-04-2010, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanta

Is current M5 a good buy?

The SMG transmission makes it a very tiresome car to drive at low speeds around town.The M3 with the 6 speed is such a better car in normal daily use.Yes the engine is awesome but I would sure not give up my M3 for one.

shiggy · 04-04-2010, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxe92xx

i highly doubt that...after BMW and Mercedes make the switch to turbo audi will obviously follow...emissions are getting strict and to get a high revving NA you will need to pay $$$ so that means ferrari, lambo, etc...

BINGO...you are so right...Audi has always been behind and they have always been reactionary...
BMW: Proactive...
Audi: Reactive...
I cant wait till they release the pricing for the RS5!.....very curious as to where they line up against the competition.

mPlasticDesign · 04-04-2010, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtndog

Take it easy. Just giving you another source...like the two below!

And that's funny because they are owned by the same company!

http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-a...-s-shores.html

http://blogs.automobilemag.com/66377...-us/index.html

+1, I just saw an S5 at the dealership with just a couple of options, Driver Select(which includes sport diff, adjustable suspension and steering), aluminum trim and the 19" wheel upgrade($400).

Grand Total: $66,680

The cheapest one I have ever seen was a Premium not Prestige package and it was $60k. So simple logic would put the RS5 price at about $80-85k if you're lucky, besides, that is what the RS4 was about four years ago.

Before I bought this M3, I considered the S5, but I just couldn't justify the price and performance when compared to the M. The same thing is going to happen with the RS5. It has already been mentioned, this is GTR territory, I'm afraid GTR wins in my book if I am looking to spend $85k. For now I will be happy with my $55,000, ever-so-slightly slower, standard sport diff, boring four door sedan.... sigh.

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