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      05-09-2010, 04:14 PM   #23
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Thanks Mike they sure have taken care of me! I have to say from what I've seen Gintani takes care of all their customers, I was behind a handful of cars before they finally got me on the dyno.

Yeah, the DR's are not new, but still decent, I did a few burnouts, but still spun on the launch, so I gave up and tried the baby it out of the hole approach. Did some dry burnouts, etc. Thinking back now I wish I would have tried LC or the mash the pedal type LC a few more times, but LC at any RPM stall never worked well for me even when I was stock or had bolt ons. I was far from home, by myself, didn't want to keep pushing the launch and I had to get back home for the Mexico runs at 5am!

You could put the DRs back one day and try LC on the street. Default RPM is set at 5500 RPM I believe when using LC. You could lower it to 5000 RPM, but you have to hold the throttle while you adjust it (which takes awhile) and I don't feel very comfortable doing that with the blower. It would be nice if we could set the launch RPM to whatever we want before holding down the throttle, but I guess that makes too much sense.

I'm probably going to get a set of DRs soon. I like the Mickey Thompson brand the best. They make a 265/40R18 and a 305/35R18. Do you think the 305/35 would fit?
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You could put the DRs back one day and try LC on the street. Default RPM is set at 5500 RPM I believe when using LC. You could lower it to 5000 RPM, but you have to hold the throttle while you adjust it (which takes awhile) and I don't feel very comfortable doing that with the blower. It would be nice if we could set the launch RPM to whatever we want before holding down the throttle, but I guess that makes too much sense.

I'm probably going to get a set of DRs soon. I like the Mickey Thompson brand the best. They make a 265/40R18 and a 305/35R18. Do you think the 305/35 would fit?
I honestly don't like the LC, lol, I tried that scenario on the street, it was actually worse, even when I was NA. At the track I found that mashing the pedal was better for me. I think the MT 305 would actually fit.
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Well I figured why not, it's going to get hotter soon and I'd like to see what the car does with the Gintani supercharger on, there are no tracks in my area that are really worthwhile this time of year, and I ran my car NA at Sacramento, so I felt it was the best place to test the car now before conditions get worse. So I drove 370 miles to Sacramento raceway, did my runs and then turned back around and drove another 370 miles home, I know I'm nuts, lol.

Before I left for Sacramento Raceway, Gintani/OE tuning did a MS109 race file on my car, as there are little to no gains that I saw just by adding race fuel to the tank, but when adding MS109 and a tune you can add some additional power without having to add more boost. This MS109 race fuel tune is with NO BOOST added. Here are the results as well as the two other setups/tunes.




I arrived at Sacramento raceway around noon, the place was pretty much empty except for a few cars. So I didn't have to wait to do runs, I liked that!

It was warm around 79 degrees, much hotter than when I ran the car NA, I believe it was 50 - 55 degrees max then. The DA was around 1100 - 1200' this time, I believe the DA was negative -170, when I ran the car NA, so the conditions were not in my favor as they were before.

Even with the Drag Radials I couldn't use launch mode, it would just spin the tires. The Launch mode never worked well for me even in stock or with bolt ons, and I found that just using the "mash the pedal" type launch would produce better results, but even using that mode and the car would not hook. I bought a used set of DR's, they're still in good shape, but just not enough to do a decent launch. I decided to just baby the car off the line and see what I could do, she hooked decently on a few runs after a bit of a roll out.

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60' 2.06
1/8th mile 7.63 @ 102.84 MPH
1/4 mile 11.45 @ 131.67 MPH

Now before anyone says that it's only 4 tenths faster than my NA time, you have to remember 1/4 mile ET's are based mainly on the launch, the first 60'. 2.06 is not a very good 60'/launch, lol, when I was NA I managed a 1.81 60', that's decent as well but still not great. The basic rule is for every tenth you shave off your launch/60' time you shave two tenths off your 1/4 mile ET. So if I could have just hit a 1.81 60' this time around with the SC'r, I would have been very close to a 10.9, cooler temps, will help as well, in other words this setup is very capable of a 10 second 1/4 mile run, the traps are certainly there.

I need to scan the slips at work, so I will post those monday, I forgot my camera so no vids, but there was a spectator that shot a few, hopefully he sends them to me. Here's a few pics from my not so great camera phone, with the new wheel and tire setup and Sacramento Raceway in the BG.

The car drove 370 miles to the track, ran a solid ET and trap, then I left and drove 370 miles back home, not a single issue. Then this morning I meet up with some P-car and GT-R buddies and headed down to C&C, let's just say I had some fun with a 997TT AWE 750R and a 600WHP HKS 570 GT-R on the drive down, everyone was pleasantly surprised at the results.

I'm becoming more and more impressed with this kit, how well it's built, tuned and performs, thanks Gintani/OE Tuning.
Im waiting for you to post more vids on youtube...

Love your roll on vids versus all the various cars.
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drew your cars a BEAST!!! congrats
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Im waiting for you to post more vids on youtube...

Love your roll on vids versus all the various cars.
Thanks!
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drew your cars a BEAST!!! congrats
Thanks Ricky, it's a lot of fun.
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good job drew!
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wow. super impressive!
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      05-10-2010, 07:17 AM   #31
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Good job Drew! That trap speed is crazy fast!

I'm sure you could get even faster the next time out!
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Nice job Drew and you are a great dirver
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Thanks Ricky, it's a lot of fun.

i bet. seriously its like you break records every week
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      05-10-2010, 10:28 AM   #34
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      05-11-2010, 02:10 AM   #35
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good job drew!
Thanks J, those runs were a lot of fun, wish you had some vids.


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wow. super impressive!
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Good job Drew! That trap speed is crazy fast!

I'm sure you could get even faster the next time out!
Thanks bud, appreciate that! You coming Bfest?

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Nice job Drew and you are a great dirver
Thanks CK!

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i bet. seriously its like you break records every week
Someone will break that record eventually. If not me, I think Mike might!


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wow drew! that's some serious power.
Not too shabby, thanks man!
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Thanks bud, appreciate that! You coming Bfest?

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great job DREW!

Dont forget to check in every few thousand miles and let us know how the s/c and the engine is holding up
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great job DREW!

Dont forget to check in every few thousand miles and let us know how the s/c and the engine is holding up
Thanks man, will do!

The slip has been added to the OP.
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Gintani is the truth! Nice job guys
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Drew did you happen to do any 60-130 runs with this map? I'd love to know the results. Thanks
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that trap speed is
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Drew did you happen to do any 60-130 runs with this map? I'd love to know the results. Thanks
That's next!
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Nice runs !! That's more like it, I was just reading the new edition of roundel where they test a Gintani Supercharged M3 and they say it runs the quarter in 12.3 !!!
I was like WTF? Your numbers make way more sense for a car with this much power... I am not sure what is wrong with the car featured in Roundel or maybe the owner has no clue what he is doing?? He did say it was on stock tires, but still... i have seen better than 12.3 from 335 with bolt ons...
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I love it how the bimmerpost thing never mentions the 1/4 mile time just the trap speed.
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