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09-14-2013, 12:07 AM | #1 |
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Bearing clearance discussion!
So guys it appears bigjay1976 wants me to shut up about the potential issue because I am spreading crap and I am campaigning people to switch over to 0W40.
I will see no personal gain from people setting their bearing clearances to my recommended specs nor will I benefit in any way from people running the 0W40. I am posting the information I am posting on here because engines are my profession and to be quite frank the clearance specs combined with the oil recommendation for the S65 and S85 scares the shit out of me. I know it is not right in any stretch if the imagination and that with these numbers and oil the majority of these engines will not last much beyond 100,000 miles. My information is solely a service to the community and if it is not wanted I will stop posting! So guys, please let me know! |
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BMRLVR, keep posting! your knowledge has been very helpful to many people on the forums.
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09-14-2013, 01:52 AM | #5 |
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Good stuff from you Jaime Keep it up.
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09-14-2013, 02:17 AM | #6 |
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Even though some or I may not be in full agreement, always useful to have point/counterpoint discussions in a constructive manner. Therefore I'm in favor of continuing such discussions. Thx for asking members about it.
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I only wish someone is willing to make the bearing we want. The SC and all other cosmetic mods are selling in bucket loads ... I just wish someone will invest in getting this bearing issue resolved. I am sure people will be queuing up to buy. I am sure we can find good numbers on this forum alone.
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09-14-2013, 07:18 AM | #9 |
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I personally appreciate the fact that you, Regular guy and Kawasaki share your knowledge and experience with the community. That goes for other knowledgable members as well perhaps in other areas (electronics, physics, track/racing, etc). Lets keep these kind of discussions going for the benefit of the community.
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09-14-2013, 08:20 AM | #11 |
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I may not agree with you on some points but we're all adults here and can make our own decisions based on the information that's out there. If someone wants to change their oil based on the information you and others post, that's his decision and it's not as if you should be responsible. Ignore bigjay1976 and keep on posting.
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09-14-2013, 10:59 AM | #13 |
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If BMW always knows best, and they are always right, then they wouldn't be on the third crankshaft revision for S65, and the rod bearings wouldn't have changed material from 088/089 to 702/703. That alone says they didn't think they got it right if they had to change it.
I realize the bearing change might have been mandated by law, but the crankshaft change wasn't. And if the new bearings really are better than the old, then BMW would have chosen those to begin with instead of changing them after only 12 months of production. Just my $0.02, and please keep posting BMRLVR. |
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Here's what I posted in another thread: Got a lot more information. There have apparently been three different S65 crankshafts, and two sets of connecting rods. Maybe somebody with better BMW connections (hint, hint, Tom@EAS) can fill in the blanks. You will be surprised, I even found +.001 bearings and they are currently available! Since I posted this, I ordered and received samples of each of these rod bearings including the oversized bearings. Yesterday, I measured and photographed all of the rod bearings. Rod Bearings: 11 24 7 838 089 Blue, 53.000 mm, +0.000 mm, 0.07890" Thick, Ended 11 24 7 841 703 Blue, 53.000 mm, +0.000 mm, 0.07890" Thick, Replacement for 089 bearing 11 24 7 838 091 Blue, 52.750 mm, +0.250 mm, 0.08370" Thick, Currently available 11 24 7 838 088 Red, 53.000 mm, +0.000 mm, 0.07875" Thick, Ended 11 24 7 841 702 Red, 53.000 mm, +0.000 mm, 0.07875" Thick, Replacement for 088 bearing 11 24 7 838 090 Red, 52.750 mm, +0.250 mm, 0.08370" Thick, Currently available Here's a photo of the old and new bearings side-by-side with part numbers shown. As seen in the photo, the bearing surfaces are quite different. |
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Please guys, continue your contributions, ideas, facts and opinions are all welcomed!
By they has anyone come across this article from Lang racing? I am on my mobile so there may be a thread already mentioning it. Different engine but a similar problem? http://www.langracing.com/addressing...ification-kit/" rel="ugc" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.langracin...ation-kit/</a> Edit: The Lang Racing post is a thread of its own. Sorry, please ignore :-) |
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09-14-2013, 01:50 PM | #20 |
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I too have learnt a ton from you guys. Members like you regular guy and kawasaki are major assets to this forum. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us and please keep posting.
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