E9x M3 LAP TIMES (Road Course)

[WhatsADSM]

Originally Posted by FormulaMMM

That's a solid time dude, well done.

"LM3" in the vid above is yours truly. I'm headed out there for the first time this season this coming Monday. Look forward to trying out the repave, but I don't know what I'll do without some of my old pavement reference points.

You can use the times in this article as reference points, though this was pre-repave. http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...erican-hustle/

Camaro Z28 is a 1:41.8 with a professional driver. As you probably know, that's about as track prepped a street car as you can get w/ 505 hp, so I'm not actually sure how much room there is for improvement with E9X and our mods. I've done countless laps around Gingerman. Feel like faster than the 1:42.7 in my vid above would require larger cojones and probably involve risks I'm unwilling to take... Maybe the repave will be an assist. We'll see.

Thanks!

I've been tracking at Gingerman for a number of years but honestly still have a few areas where I suffer. Not that it is *that* important of a turn but I always tend to struggle with 1 (entrance speed much too low), and was actually being a little too reserved at 6 and 9 as well. I was just in shock and awe mostly of how much grip there was. Most of it due to the Pirelli take-offs, but the KWs and (I suspect) the new pavement also played a part.

When you go back be sure to get some video and post it up. I actually suspect you will be notably faster with the new pavement. Your existing video served as great inspiration for me prior to going out there. I knew I wouldn't be able to match your time, but it did help out a ton as a point of reference!

[Cloud9blue]

Originally Posted by WhatsADSM

Just got back from Gingerman. I only got in one session on the new tires (take off pirelli's) and also one session where I remembered to actually turn on Harry's Lap Timer. I got a 1:44.42.

Stock powertrain, stoptechs, clubsports, and the take off Pirelli DHs.

I am a decent driver but I definitely left a few seconds on the table as I need much more seat time to get used to the new suspension and sticky tires (I've only ever driven on street tires before). With the Pirelli's and KWs its total insanity how early you can get on the gas.

Wow, nice times! Perhaps I should really considering upgrading to R-comp or DOT slicks after another season or so. These street tires just ain't cutting it for our heavy cars after 3-4 hot laps.

[Groundpilot]

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

Wow, nice times! Perhaps I should really considering upgrading to R-comp or DOT slicks after another season or so. These street tires just ain't cutting it for our heavy cars after 3-4 hot laps.

The difference between street tires(even good ones) and R-compound tires is huge. For example: at WGI the difference in lap times was 7 seconds with the same set up and ambient temp in my case.

[Killerfish2012]

You guys are now running bastard fast times at Gingerman! I remember when I was at 1:50 years ago with my 335I, and I was the fastest 335I ever there, and I thought that was a fast time (which it was, for stock brakes, and street tires ) I've always suggested Road America for my fellow mid-western guys, to fully enjoy high speeds. You guys should try it. Or if you want to try another great Alan Wilson track, you can check out Mid-America Motorplex now RPI. I'm planning on doing Gingerman on their last official track day of the year in October. It's a driver's side front tire killer for sure, unless you are running a square set, and can rotate in between sessions. That's all that makes me apprehensive, otherwise a great RW track. I'm going to be doing Mid Ohio this month, a newly expanded Pittsburg track next month, and road america, and maybe gingerman in October. Hope to see you guys out there, and keep it safe

[Cloud9blue]

Originally Posted by Killerfish2012

You guys are now running bastard fast times at Gingerman! I remember when I was at 1:50 years ago with my 335I, and I was the fastest 335I ever there, and I thought that was a fast time (which it was, for stock brakes, and street tires ) I've always suggested Road America for my fellow mid-western guys, to fully enjoy high speeds. You guys should try it. Or if you want to try another great Alan Wilson track, you can check out Mid-America Motorplex now RPI. I'm planning on doing Gingerman on their last official track day of the year in October. It's a driver's side front tire killer for sure, unless you are running a square set, and can rotate in between sessions. That's all that makes me apprehensive, otherwise a great RW track. I'm going to be doing Mid Ohio this month, a newly expanded Pittsburg track next month, and road america, and maybe gingerman in October. Hope to see you guys out there, and keep it safe

Tracking an e9x, whether it is a M3 or 335i, on stock brake pads is just silly

I am planning to try out Road America in Oct w/ MVP, hope to see some of you guys there!

[Killerfish2012]

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

Tracking an e9x, whether it is a M3 or 335i, on stock brake pads is just silly

Back in the day, that was the only option. Had to lay the ground work, that's what pioneers do

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

I am planning to try out Road America in Oct w/ MVP, hope to see some of you guys there!

Put yourself in intermediate, and I'll roll out with ya.

[Cloud9blue]

Originally Posted by Killerfish2012

Back in the day, that was the only option. Had to lay the ground work, that's what pioneers do



Put yourself in intermediate, and I'll roll out with ya.

Great, will let you know once I sign up in a week or so!

[WhatsADSM]

Went out to the SCCA PDX at the Milwaukee Mile. Not the greatest course but well priced and super convenient. I ended up just running my Bridgestone S04 street tires and according to Harry's pulled a 1:22.71 which is about 2 seconds faster than I ever went in my heavily modded Elise on street tires.

I will say I am impressed with the kw clubsports on track ... Which is good because they kind of suck on the street.

[Cloud9blue]

Who else is going to Road America on Oct 3-4 w/ MVP?

First time going to to a "big-balls" track after a dozen or so events at the local club circuit. Will be running in intermediate group, so hope to see some e9x to show me the lines.

Got a new set of rotors and pads just for this...

[Repoman]

Track/Course: Big Willow
Best Lap Time: 1:41
Brake Pads: Stock
Tires (Size & Model): (SQ) 245/18 Eagle F1
Suspension: Stock
Other Mods: AA Green Filter

[4M]

Track: Autobahn Country Club
Best Lap Time: 2:51
Brakes: Stoptech/PFC 11 pads
Tires: Hankook RS-3s (265/285 18s)
Suspension: KW Coilovers + Swaybars
Other Mods: N/A[IMG][/IMG]

[VictorH]

Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

Who else is going to Road America on Oct 3-4 w/ MVP?

First time going to to a "big-balls" track after a dozen or so events at the local club circuit. Will be running in intermediate group, so hope to see some e9x to show me the lines.

Got a new set of rotors and pads just for this...

Fantastic track and huge fun. Too big a drive for me, but still been 3 times. Good discs and pads (and some good fluid) are a must.

[Greg S]

Track/Course: Texas World Speedway(TWS) CCW
Best Lap Time: 1:55.83(a little traffic at T3 entering 2 wide)
Brake Pads: PFC 11 all around
Tires (Size & Model): 275/35/18 Bridgestone RE71R
Suspension: MCS double remote reservoir, all solid/spherical bushings.
Other Mods: PFC Z54 front BBK, full interior, 3750lbs with driver and ~1/2 tank at time, 311whp.

[WhatsADSM]

Originally Posted by Greg S

Track/Course: Texas World Speedway(TWS) CCW
Best Lap Time: 1:55.83(a little traffic at T3 entering 2 wide)
Brake Pads: PFC 11 all around
Tires (Size & Model): 275/35/18 Bridgestone RE71R
Suspension: MCS double remote reservoir, all solid/spherical bushings.
Other Mods: PFC Z54 front BBK, full interior, 3750lbs with driver and ~1/2 tank at time, 311whp.

311whp?!

[Greg S]

Originally Posted by WhatsADSM

311whp?!

Yup, she's not the strongest S65 out there. A customer's stock E92 M3 made 336whp on the same dyno. I've been troubleshooting why it's down on power for a while with no luck yet.

[mastek]

Originally Posted by Greg S

Yup, she's not the strongest S65 out there. A customer's stock E92 M3 made 336whp on the same dyno. I've been troubleshooting why it's down on power for a while with no luck yet.

Try pressing the go pedal all the way down

[Jon@NL]

Car: BMW X1
Track/Course: Mid Ohio Sports Car Course Club Configuration
Best Lap Time: 1:43.90
Brake Pads: Hawk DTC70
Tires (Size & Model): Nt01 275
Suspension: JRZ
Other Mods: Cooling, Stoptechs, Tune, etc

Plenty of time left on the table once I learn to stop sucking at braking.

[Cloud9blue]

Originally Posted by Jon@NL

Car: BMW X1
Track/Course: Mid Ohio Sports Car Course Club Configuration
Best Lap Time: 1:43.90
Brake Pads: Hawk DTC70
Tires (Size & Model): Nt01 275
Suspension: JRZ
Other Mods: Cooling, Stoptechs, Tune, etc

Plenty of time left on the table once I learn to stop sucking at braking.

Wow, a X1 with JRZ being seriously tracked. Not something you see everyday

[jakob66]

Car: BMW M3
Track/Course: VIR full
Best Lap Time 3 weeks ago: 2:13.3
Brakes: St60 with Pagid yellow
Tires (Size & Model): Nt01 275 all around
Suspension: KW CS
Other Mods: bushings etc

Was my first time at VIR with that set-up and still plenty of time on table.
Next time VIR in October with Hoosier.

[Greg S]

Track/Course: MSR Houston CCW 9-25-15
Best Lap Time: 1:40.314(TT3 record)
Brake Pads: PFC 11 all around
Tires (Size & Model): 295/30/18 Hoosier A7
Suspension: MCS double remote reservoir, all solid/spherical bushings/bearings.
Other Mods: PFC Z54 front BBK, mostly stripped rear interior, 1 race seat, 3460lbs with driver and very low on fuel, 366whp, I/H/E, tune, pullies.

[jakob66]

Greg S
Very nice fast set-up!! What ET are your wheels to fit? I guess no spacers?
Do you mind posting your ride height? Looks like no rake.

[Greg S]

Originally Posted by jakob66

Greg S
Very nice fast set-up!! What ET are your wheels to fit? I guess no spacers?
Do you mind posting your ride height? Looks like no rake.

18"x10.5" ET27, 5mm spacer upfront, no spacers in the rear. Keep in mind I have adjustable length upper camber arms(among others) in the rear so I can play with track width some to tune for tire fitment. The rear is 1/2" lower than the front when measured from the fenders, PM me for more info.