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03-03-2008, 04:47 PM | #177 |
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I'm pretty sure they eventually will!! If they don't, we will mod them untill we get there!! lol!!
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03-04-2008, 03:00 AM | #178 |
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I think we'll see the E92 M3 CSL in a couple of years... just hope they won't overpriced it like they did with the E46 CSL.
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03-04-2008, 09:06 AM | #179 |
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Yep, hope they come out with it sooner that two years!!! CLS should be a nice improvement! How much more expensive was the CLS from the regular M3?
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03-05-2008, 09:02 AM | #180 |
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03-05-2008, 09:06 AM | #181 |
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Ufff!!! UK prices are very similar to those in Mexico, so the CSL here should be very expensive as well. My road will be to add a Mosselmann S/C or turbo in a few months and add other suspension etc... improvements that should yield better performance than the upcoming CSL.
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03-05-2008, 09:23 AM | #183 |
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I hope that is the case and makes sense to price within Porsche territory. What sorts of things did the prior CLS improve other that a few CF items and a bit more power? Were these all things (or mostly) that you could not add to an M3?
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CF front bumper/spoiler CF front spoiler extension CF bootlid spoiler CF roof Thermoplastic honeycomb boot floor Composite rear bulkhead Thinner rear glass screen Aluminium alloy wheels CF internal door panels GRP racing seats CF airbox with air ram Upgraded brakes Revised ECU Upgraded SMG software Race style Alpha N system air/fuel sensor Semi Heim jointed suspension Revised suspension geometry with 12mm lower front ride height and lighter lower arms |
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03-05-2008, 10:59 AM | #186 |
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It's not about what to add, it's about what to subtract. The CSL was considerably lighter then the stock E46. Almost no soundproofing, extensive use of CF, racing seats, cardboard trunk floor, a little more HP, suspension upgrade, light weight wheels and a few other things.
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03-05-2008, 11:09 AM | #188 |
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The 997 GT3 did something similar (with less CF application), but with a much more exotic race-derived engine for a 15% increase in price... albeit many of the additionals are pricey options. I hope the price of the new CSL won't go through the roof this time.
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03-05-2008, 05:31 PM | #189 |
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I hope so as well!! Let´s see what BMW comes up with, but given the very special nature of the current E92 M3, the CLS version will have to be very creative indeed.
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03-06-2008, 01:04 PM | #190 |
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BMW M3 Race Version
Check these pics out!!!
Front brake system: Six-piston aluminum brake calipers, inner-vented grey-cast iron brake disks 15.0 in./380mm in diameter Rear brake system: Four-piston aluminum brake calipers, grey-cast iron brake disk, 13.1 in./332mm in diameter Engine: Capacity 3999 cc Engine management: BMW Motorsport ECU 408 with two high-performance micro-processors BHP and Torque: 485 bhp 368 lb-ft/500 Nm Type: Eight cylinder, V-configuration
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'08 E92 M3 6MT | IB | FR | RAC RG63's | VRS Ti Exhaust | Fabspeed HFC & Xpipe '09 X5 35d SG/SB '11 X3 28i AW/CN/FW (wife's car |
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03-06-2008, 01:12 PM | #193 |
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lol its ok, not sure how you missed that other thread though...admin delete thread...
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'08 E92 M3 6MT | IB | FR | RAC RG63's | VRS Ti Exhaust | Fabspeed HFC & Xpipe '09 X5 35d SG/SB '11 X3 28i AW/CN/FW (wife's car |
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03-06-2008, 04:56 PM | #196 |
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Hahaha!!! Maybe the CLS, but this baby uses race fuel with much higher octane ratings so that at the very least, firing order, fuel delivery and ECU are programmed to deliver an even higher compression ratio/RPM cut off range to produce the 485 bhp!!! I say as at the very least since it is possible that it has stronger internals as well, don’t know the rules of this race series yet.
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03-07-2008, 10:06 AM | #198 |
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We will see what tuners come up with. I am keeping my eyes wide open and will be the first to jump when they do have all that nice stuff!!!
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