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I totally agree that the E30 is better, but for this segment, Lexus still did good with their first try jumping in with the BMW, Merc, and Audi competition. So maybe not the "best" but for this generation they did pretty good.
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08-02-2008, 01:20 AM | #25 |
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No your just not an enthusiast.
What is sad is how far behind the IS-F is on a 2.74 mile course. 4.4 seconds a lap slower than the M3 sedan. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/.../photo_16.html IS-F was so over-hyped. It keeps racking up the last place finishes in the comparos. |
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How much slower was the IS-F compared to the C63?..............Yeah that's right, a whole 0.6s. The IS-F isn't a bad first attempt, in most cases it all but matches the Mercedes, the simple fact is that the M3 on a track at least is in a different class, it can enter, go through and leave any corner quicker than either of them.
But there is much more than purely figures that makes someone chose the M3 over any of the others (well intelligent people in any case), in many of the reviews including the ones carried out in the UK, the IS-F has shown itself to fair very well, it might not be the last word in chassis finesse but at 7/10th it's every bit the match of the mighty M and it's the match of the C63...period. It's a good car, it's only the M3 is a bit better. |
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I don't think the car was overhyped at all. I just didn't feel like spending the extra $$ for an LSD and the name. If anything was overhyped it has been the M3. I may not be your definition of an "enthusiast" but I bet 99% of M3 owners aren't either and aren't buying it b/c it went around a track faster. In fact most won't ever even see a track. So quit hiding behind magazine articles. |
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08-02-2008, 08:24 PM | #28 | |
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I think the ISF is an excellent car, but I was looking for something more nimble. IMHO, the biggest difference btwn the performance of the cars is the bimmer's ability to handle in another class of vehicles (as exemplified by about 20 or so mag comparo's so far). I agree with a number of people here, in that only drivers who car about that are going to truly enjoy their M3 more than a Lex or the C63. Just my $.02 |
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08-02-2008, 08:34 PM | #29 |
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Most drivers of all 3 cars will never need anything more than a 328, IS250 or Cwhateverthebasemodelis for the driving that they do. This is a useless argument for actually comparing the 3 cars. Your car came in last, live with it. Clearly there are other characteristics (price, make, ???) that are more important to you, and that's fine. Quit trying to justify your decision by calling M3 drivers posers.
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I've driven plenty of new M3's. You sure have a lot of input on the M3 for someone who drives a 335i. Why so defensive??
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