Why do you not track?

[skierman64]

I don't think twice about driving 6-8 hours for a weekend of tracking. I guess everyone's perspective is different. I'm heading to O'fest here in a few weeks for 5 straight days on the track. Can't wait.

[OC3]

Originally Posted by aus

If you shredded a set of tires in 2 sessions, you should look at how you're driving. If you're smooth, your tires will last a lot longer. And PS2's are known to shred on the edges and get greasy when they get hot. Not the best track tire. The PSS are suppose to be better ornthere are cheaper alternatives too.
Get back out on the track and see how you feel about it.

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Well, he didn't say he shredded a set of "new" PS2's in 2 sessions. I bet they already saw some use before said 2 sessions...

[M3er]

Originally Posted by christopherchenm

The reason i barely go to track because it's way too far. Its 100 miles away, i will be really tired after 100 miles driving

I think mine is far too..
anyone knows of a place like than in New England area? (MA, NH?)
I heard there is something in CT?

will be really helpful if someone can point me..

[persian54]

Originally Posted by OC3

Well, he didn't say he shredded a set of "new" PS2's in 2 sessions. I bet they already saw some use before said 2 sessions...

True

But PSS aren't track tires

They're great street tires though, from what I've heard

[aus]

Originally Posted by OC3

Well, he didn't say he shredded a set of "new" PS2's in 2 sessions. I bet they already saw some use before said 2 sessions...

I didn't say anything about "new" tires either. You can do a whole weekend on tires near the wear bar if you check your pressures and are smooth. I'm not that smooth, but I've seen it done.

[captainaudio]

Originally Posted by bmw_enthusiasm

I think mine is far too..
anyone knows of a place like than in New England area? (MA, NH?)
I heard there is something in CT?

will be really helpful if someone can point me..

Lime Rock Park is in Lakeville, Ct.

http://www.limerock.com

The Conneticut Valley, Patroon (Albany area) and New Jersey BMWCCA chapters all have track days there.

You can also get on track with the Sports Car Driving Association.

http://www.scda1.com

You can also check out New Hampshire Motor Speedway.

CA

[persian54]

Originally Posted by aus

I didn't say anything about "new" tires either. You can do a whole weekend on tires near the wear bar if you check your pressures and are smooth. I'm not that smooth, but I've seen it done.

From what I've heard though, no matter how smooth you are, if you're in a heavy car and are a fast fast FAST driver, you can really go through tires quick

[03BeastCharmer]

Originally Posted by skierman64

I don't think twice about driving 6-8 hours for a weekend of tracking. I guess everyone's perspective is different. I'm heading to O'fest here in a few weeks for 5 straight days on the track. Can't wait.

We're going, but only doing 1 day of DE.

DO you think you'll need to change tires and brake fluid during the event?

I think if you own a ///M car you should take it to the track at least once to see what it's real potential is. Speeding down the freeway or back roads is not the place to experiment. And I 2nd autox as a way to step in slowly.

[M3er]

Originally Posted by captainaudio

Lime Rock Park is in Lakeville, Ct.

http://www.limerock.com

The Conneticut Valley, Patroon (Albany area) and New Jersey BMWCCA chapters all have track days there.

You can also get on track with the Sports Car Driving Association.

http://www.scda1.com

You can also check out New Hampshire Motor Speedway.

CA

thanks for the info!

[kmarei]

I have one more reason not to track
i'm selling my 2008 M3 now because my 2012 M3 is almost here
without fail, every single person that has contacted me about the car
has asked me this:
"Has the car been tracked?"
so if you're thinking resale, tracking a car does put a red flag to a lot of buyers

[ASGM3]

I'm waiting for the new F1 tack to open up in my city , gonna hit the track once every month atleast .

[Sedan_Clan]

There are three reasons why I don't track the M3.....

1. I have a highly modified, race-prepped Ducati 848 that I track/race on a regular basis
2. The M3 is my daily driver and I cannot afford to potentially wreck it on the track
3. Tracking a bike is far more involving, rewarding and enjoyable than tracking a car IMHO!

[skierman64]

Originally Posted by 03BeastCharmer

We're going, but only doing 1 day of DE.

DO you think you'll need to change tires and brake fluid during the event?

I think if you own a ///M car you should take it to the track at least once to see what it's real potential is. Speeding down the freeway or back roads is not the place to experiment. And I 2nd autox as a way to step in slowly.

I'm running my E36M3 at O'fest. I just ordered a new set of Nittos for the event. I typically get 10 track days out of a set of Nittos, so I doubt I'll have a problem with 5 days at O'fest. I will rotate the tires through out the 5 days though. Brake pads should be fine too, although I'll have a spare set with me. I change the brake fluid every 6 months on my track car, so there won't be a need to change it during Ofest. I may have to bleed the brake fluid if it gets too hot, but I run (Superblue) high temp fluid, so that usually isn't a problem either.

One important technique to avoid overheating brake fluid is to use your cool down lap to cool down the brakes before coming into the pits. Slow down from track speeds but keep the speed up 40-50+ for some good air flow to the brakes. Also avoid brake use on the cool down laps by coasting and downshifting into the slower corners so the brakes have a chance to cool.

[skierman64]

Originally Posted by 03BeastCharmer

We're going, but only doing 1 day of DE.

DO you think you'll need to change tires and brake fluid during the event?

I think if you own a ///M car you should take it to the track at least once to see what it's real potential is. Speeding down the freeway or back roads is not the place to experiment. And I 2nd autox as a way to step in slowly.

I'll be driving my E36M3 at O'fest. I get 10 track days on a set of Nittos so, I'll be able to make it all 5 days and I only change my brake fluid every 6 months, so that sould be good to go as well. I may have to bleed the brakes, but I use high temp superblue, so it usually isn't a problem. Also, I don't use my brakes on the cool down laps. That helps to prevent boiling the fluid.

[swartzentruber]

Was at Road America with Badger Bimmers this past weekend, and saw a good reason not to take your new M3 onto the track. Someone in my run group (intermediate -- I'm advanced, but I was running with intermediate due to many stupid crazy fast cars in advanced) plowed what looked to be a virtually new M3 into the tire wall coming out of 12. Not huge damage, but I'm not sure how I'd feel spending another 3 - 5 years with a car as my DD that had been in that kind of accident. Someone in the advanced group plowed the front end of his fairly new Evo into something, I think around the kink area (turn 11), and sustained pretty major damage. This was on a completely dry track, and not that cold (at least not for WI this time of year).

I plan to track my M3 someday, but probably not during the time when it's my DD. I've already hit a tire wall in my R32 after spinning off a wet track, so I know what it's like, and as bad as that felt, it would be so much worse doing it to my new M3. There are way too many people that think track accidents will never happen to them, but they are a fairly regular occurence at all the track events I've been too.

[llis]

> Someone in my run group (intermediate -- I'm advanced, but I was running with intermediate due to many stupid crazy fast cars in advanced) plowed what looked to be a virtually new M3 into the tire wall coming out of 12. Not huge damage, but I'm not sure how I'd feel spending another 3 - 5 years with a car as my DD that had been in that kind of accident.

What a bummer! This points up the importance of insurance. If you can't afford to lose the value of the car out of pocket, then insure yourself for the track days. There are several options. Search the forums here.

I've seen a few accidents in wheel-to-wheel racing. None but the odd spin or 4-off in HPDE. I don't know any stats, but I feel safer in HPDE with everyone paying very close attention to everything, rather than driving the streets with f**ktards thinking they can text and drive, drive 90mph through snow, street race their sms trucks, or treat their SUVs like MG Midgets to weave through traffic.

[captainaudio]

If you cant afford to wreck it you can't afford to track it.

CA

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by captainaudio

If you cant afford to wreck it you can't afford to track it.

CA

..The bottom line!

[aus]

Originally Posted by swartzentruber

Was at Road America with Badger Bimmers this past weekend, and saw a good reason not to take your new M3 onto the track. Someone in my run group (intermediate -- I'm advanced, but I was running with intermediate due to many stupid crazy fast cars in advanced) plowed what looked to be a virtually new M3 into the tire wall coming out of 12. Not huge damage, but I'm not sure how I'd feel spending another 3 - 5 years with a car as my DD that had been in that kind of accident. Someone in the advanced group plowed the front end of his fairly new Evo into something, I think around the kink area (turn 11), and sustained pretty major damage. This was on a completely dry track, and not that cold (at least not for WI this time of year).

Isn't there an instructor in each car???

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[dizzyj]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

..The bottom line!

thats hwy im buying a 944 turbo. Great track cars. easy mods, big power, and an ls1 replacement option.

[captainaudio]

Originally Posted by aus

Isn't there an instructor in each car???

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If you wreck your car while their is an instructor riding with you the instructor is not required to pay for the damage.

CA

[skierman64]

Originally Posted by captainaudio

If you wreck your car while their is an instructor riding with you the instructor is not required to pay for the damage.

CA

You're kidding right? Do you realize the instructors are volunteers?