I think I just ruined my engine with fuel injector cleaner

[Joejoe12]

Bought Techron. Like an idiot I always gotta do a little extra of everything and ur always bites me in the ass.

Ran 1 bottle Techron with 14 gallons. Did another Techron with 14. Day later. Then like an idiot drove the car 300 miles pretty hard on high rpm’s highway miles. Up to 6k.

Now I truly believe it contaminated my oil and turned it to water or messed up its consistency and bearings are now spun or shredded because I’m seeing specs and glitter in oil along with flakes. Did 2 oil changes since then and it seems to be less and less glitter but it’s still glitter and specs. The oil after the 2 Techron’s did seem much more like water and it smelled strongly of gas. I’m absolutely an idiot for this. I thought Techron was safe but I guess not.

[nrubenstein]

I doubt you did that with Techron.

But if you are seeing a lot of flakes and glitter in the oil, STOP DRIVING.

[kolosy]

very unlikely it's the fuel additive. if whatever is in your gas tank is getting into your oil, you had an issue before the additive.

[Joejoe12]

Originally Posted by nrubenstein

I doubt you did that with Techron.

But if you are seeing a lot of flakes and glitter in the oil, STOP DRIVING.

I have no choice it’s my only car atm. I’m not driving much but I do have to drive it a little here and there. I think I will pull the bottom end and see. If the bottom end it ruined is the top ad well?

[Joejoe12]

Originally Posted by kolosy

very unlikely it's the fuel additive. if whatever is in your gas tank is getting into your oil, you had an issue before the additive.

Well that’s the issue. Not even a tiny smell of gas came from the oil when I didn’t use Techron. I always make sure to smell it and check it out. But it reeked of gas after the Techron and consistency felt watery.

[nrubenstein]

Originally Posted by Joejoe12

I have no choice it’s my only car atm. I’m not driving much but I do have to drive it a little here and there. I think I will pull the bottom end and see. If the bottom end it ruined is the top ad well?

The bottom end is the only part that matters.

[SAMM3Y]

Sounds like you might be flooding a cylinder with a stuck injector

[Cmassey3]

Originally Posted by Joejoe12

I have no choice it’s my only car atm. I’m not driving much but I do have to drive it a little here and there. I think I will pull the bottom end and see. If the bottom end it ruined is the top ad well?

I'd not drive it any more and flatbed it to a shop unless you're doing the work yourself. You could very easily turn a $3000 problem into a $25000 problem.

[spammysammich]

Dilute fuel injector cleaner by itself doesn't cause bore wash, cylinder scoring, leaky injectors or hydrolock. Sticky injectors leaking into a cylinder do. S85 engines are notoriously bad with fuel injector problems, guess what S65s inherited from that lineage.

[spammysammich]

I wonder if the lack of use a lot of these cars get when they're relegated to weekend cars or garage queens/"investments" has anything to do with the injector failures? If I were you I'd pull all the plugs and get a cheap endoscope from Amazon to inspect your cylinder walls.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Joejoe12

Bought Techron. Like an idiot I always gotta do a little extra of everything and ur always bites me in the ass.

Ran 1 bottle Techron with 14 gallons. Did another Techron with 14. Day later. Then like an idiot drove the car 300 miles pretty hard on high rpm's highway miles. Up to 6k.

Now I truly believe it contaminated my oil and turned it to water or messed up its consistency and bearings are now spun or shredded because I'm seeing specs and glitter in oil along with flakes. Did 2 oil changes since then and it seems to be less and less glitter but it's still glitter and specs. The oil after the 2 Techron's did seem much more like water and it smelled strongly of gas. I'm absolutely an idiot for this. I thought Techron was safe but I guess not.

Time to take it to Carmax....

Or turn lemon into lemonade with a stroker.

[Throatpunch]

Originally Posted by spammysammich

Dilute fuel injector cleaner by itself doesn't cause bore wash, cylinder scoring, leaky injectors or hydrolock. Sticky injectors leaking into a cylinder do. S85 engines are notoriously bad with fuel injector problems, guess what S65s inherited from that lineage.

Almost all the issues with these cars are relationships with OEM parts manufacturers.

Bosch should just stick to dishwashers lol

[spammysammich]

Originally Posted by Throatpunch

Almost all the issues with these cars are relationships with OEM parts manufacturers.

Bosch should just stick to dishwashers lol

I like their jig saws and drills/impact drivers

[Throatpunch]

Originally Posted by spammysammich

I like their jig saws and drills/impact drivers

Ok those too lmao

[DrFerry]

Originally Posted by Joejoe12

Bought Techron. Like an idiot I always gotta do a little extra of everything and ur always bites me in the ass.

Ran 1 bottle Techron with 14 gallons. Did another Techron with 14. Day later. Then like an idiot drove the car 300 miles pretty hard on high rpm's highway miles. Up to 6k.

Now I truly believe it contaminated my oil and turned it to water or messed up its consistency and bearings are now spun or shredded because I'm seeing specs and glitter in oil along with flakes. Did 2 oil changes since then and it seems to be less and less glitter but it's still glitter and specs. The oil after the 2 Techron's did seem much more like water and it smelled strongly of gas. I'm absolutely an idiot for this. I thought Techron was safe but I guess not.

Techron is known the coat the OEM plugs and turn the tips a brownish color. Search for threads on that subject. Most recommend replacing the plugs after using Techron. Gas in the oil is blowing by the rings probably due to a faulty injector (sticky injector). As others have said, replace the injectors for peace of mind and to protect the engine. The excess fuel in the oil will reduce the viscosity of the oil and exacerbate potential rod bearing failure.. Trailer or flat bed the car to a Dealer or Indy Shop for repair and diagnosis or IF you're capable DIY the injectors and plugs. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

[Redd]

Techron is one of the best fuel additive packages in the market right now. I don't see how a bit of concentrated Techron can cause bore wash. What might have happened is that the Techron may have loosened up some deposits in the fuel lines which subsequently got lodged in an injector causing it to be stuck open. Pure conjecture, and seems like a fluke failure.

Like others have said, stop driving the car til you figure out for sure what is causing the metal flakes.

[tbuck]

Personally I find it odd that rather than take it to a shop immediately you join a forum and start 2 posts, one about glitter and the other about Techron, and resurrect a 3rd about metal in an oil filter. Were it me I would have stopped driving the car, had it towed to a shop and had them inspect the engine for issues. Being your only car would seem to make it even more imperative that you don't destroy it by continuing to drive it. They rent cars you know. In any case, good luck.

[Joejoe12]

Originally Posted by spammysammich

I wonder if the lack of use a lot of these cars get when they're relegated to weekend cars or garage queens/"investments" has anything to do with the injector failures? If I were you I'd pull all the plugs and get a cheap endoscope from Amazon to inspect your cylinder walls.

Wouldn’t my next oil change smell as gas as the first one though? I just poured in 3rd round of fresh oil. Will do 200 miles and check again.

[spammysammich]

Good luck with that.

[Joejoe12]

Originally Posted by DrFerry

Techron is known the coat the OEM plugs and turn the tips a brownish color. Search for threads on that subject. Most recommend replacing the plugs after using Techron. Gas in the oil is blowing by the rings probably due to a faulty injector (sticky injector). As others have said, replace the injectors for peace of mind and to protect the engine. The excess fuel in the oil will reduce the viscosity of the oil and exacerbate potential rod bearing failure.. Trailer or flat bed the car to a Dealer or Indy Shop for repair and diagnosis or IF you're capable DIY the injectors and plugs. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

The thing is though after Techron the oil smelled like gas. I went ahead changed oil, drove about 1000 miles and the oil didn’t smell like gas at all. Didn’t look any different either like the first time. Wouldn’t a sticky injector cause the second oil change to smell like gas as well? I’m thinking of doing an oil analysis

[Joejoe12]

Originally Posted by Redd

Techron is one of the best fuel additive packages in the market right now. I don't see how a bit of concentrated Techron can cause bore wash. What might have happened is that the Techron may have loosened up some deposits in the fuel lines which subsequently got lodged in an injector causing it to be stuck open. Pure conjecture, and seems like a fluke failure.

Like others have said, stop driving the car til you figure out for sure what is causing the metal flakes.

I will be tearing down the bottom end in a week or two. And yea that might have happened but my second oil change of 1000 miles didn’t smell like gas one bit.

[Joejoe12]

Originally Posted by tbuck

Personally I find it odd that rather than take it to a shop immediately you join a forum and start 2 posts, one about glitter and the other about Techron, and resurrect a 3rd about metal in an oil filter. Were it me I would have stopped driving the car, had it towed to a shop and had them inspect the engine for issues. Being your only car would seem to make it even more imperative that you don't destroy it by continuing to drive it. They rent cars you know. In any case, good luck.

What is a shop going to tell me. The same thing I already know. Flakes in oil which is not good. They will most likely tear down the bottom end which I’m doing myself in about a week. They might check some other things that I can do as well. No point in paying a shop thousands. I will most likely redo the bottom end this month but I’m still questioning how this happened and I believe Techron had a huge role