Dinan Tune - Transferable?

[Car54]

I'm planning to sell off my Dinan intake and exhaust parts and wanted to know if the tune is transferable from car to car? I understand I'd have to have both cars and a Dinan dealer.

TIA!

[MFL]

Previously, you could buy an ECU and get it aligned with your car in E36's, but I don't know if that scales to the later models.

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by MFL

Previously, you could buy an ECU and get it aligned with your car in E36's, but I don't know if that scales to the later models.

No such thing as DME alignment since 2007 and up. E36 or E46 no problem

Tunes are not transferable as far as I know.

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by Car54

I'm planning to sell off my Dinan intake and exhaust parts and wanted to know if the tune is transferable from car to car? I understand I'd have to have both cars and a Dinan dealer.

TIA!

Tunes are not transferable.
I work for a shop that is a Dinan dealer.

[VCP]

And once you have Dinan, good luck if you ever want a different tune, like BPM for example. Pain. In. The. Ass.

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by VCP

And once you have Dinan, good luck if you ever want a different tune, like BPM for example. Pain. In. The. Ass.

Why do you say that?

[BrewRifle]

Originally Posted by VCP

And once you have Dinan, good luck if you ever want a different tune, like BPM for example. Pain. In. The. Ass.

You could just flash back to stock and then flash to another vendors tune. I've not heard of folks having issues going between different tunes.

[VCP]

We have had a few E92 Dinan flashed 335's in and when we went to mod further (Meth install) we switched to Active Autowerke to tune them. In all cases it is not a simple flash back to stock and then a re write. It can be flashed backed to stock, but Dinan puts a lock on the entire DME for tuning. Once we were back to stock the Dinan block would not allow a read. We ended up doing complete DME back to virgin through Autologic. So that means a total wipe and re write. Benvo, I can't believe you have not ran into this!

Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

Why do you say that?

Originally Posted by BrewRifle

You could just flash back to stock and then flash to another vendors tune. I've not heard of folks having issues going between different tunes.

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by VCP

We have had a few E92 Dinan flashed 335's in and when we went to mod further (Meth install) we switched to Active Autowerke to tune them. In all cases it is not a simple flash back to stock and then a re write. It can be flashed backed to stock, but Dinan puts a lock on the entire DME for tuning. Once we were back to stock the Dinan block would not allow a read. We ended up doing complete DME back to virgin through Autologic. So that means a total wipe and re write. Benvo, I can't believe you have not ran into this!

The reason why you've run into this is because some tools do not have the ability to fully update the program and data areas to new (or current) versions without failing, and that would leave you in the situation you described. In the case of the cable/software we use, it doesn't matter what software version you're presently on, or whether you are tuned or not - we can safely update the DME to the latest version and apply our software.

The situation you described above may apply on locked software from Dinan, but doesn't apply on the E9x M3 DME. The reason why your flashes to "stock" weren't successful on the 335, is because the tool used was only flashing the calibration/data area, and in order to remove the lock and read the ECU for additional tuning, the program area would also need to be flashed back to stock. Our tool supports flashing both the program and data area in it's entirety, but some tools do not. The knowledge of this is why I've never had to run into this situation before

Hope this helps. If you want a more in depth technical explanation, let me know and I'm happy to PM.

[VCP]

Thanks Mike. Yes they were Dinan locked and this was not on the E9x M3. The flash to stock worked just fine. It was when reading the stock file to re tune that the block popped up.

Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

The reason why you've run into this is because some tools do not have the ability to fully update the program and data areas to new (or current) versions without failing, and that would leave you in the situation you described. In the case of the cable/software we use, it doesn't matter what software version you're presently on, or whether you are tuned or not - we can safely update the DME to the latest version and apply our software.

The situation you described above may apply on locked software from Dinan, but doesn't apply on the E9x M3 DME. The reason why your flashes to "stock" weren't successful on the 335, is because the tool used was only flashing the calibration/data area, and in order to remove the lock and read the ECU for additional tuning, the program area would also need to be flashed back to stock. Our tool supports flashing both the program and data area in it's entirety, but some tools do not. The knowledge of this is why I've never had to run into this situation before

Hope this helps. If you want a more in depth technical explanation, let me know and I'm happy to PM.

[Car54]

Originally Posted by EuroKar

Tunes are not transferable.
I work for a shop that is a Dinan dealer.

Would your shop flash it back to stock for no charge, or just a standard connection charge?

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by VCP

We have had a few E92 Dinan flashed 335's in and when we went to mod further (Meth install) we switched to Active Autowerke to tune them. In all cases it is not a simple flash back to stock and then a re write. It can be flashed backed to stock, but Dinan puts a lock on the entire DME for tuning. Once we were back to stock the Dinan block would not allow a read. We ended up doing complete DME back to virgin through Autologic. So that means a total wipe and re write. Benvo, I can't believe you have not ran into this!

I have never ran into this issue when over writing Dinan programmed engine control modules.

[EuroKar]

Originally Posted by Car54

Would your shop flash it back to stock for no charge, or just a standard connection charge?

If it was a car that I originally programmed, yes I would flash it back for no charge.

[VCP]

Seems I got lucky 3 times. Lotto ticket today

Originally Posted by EuroKar

I have never ran into this issue when over writing Dinan programmed engine control modules.

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by VCP

Seems I got lucky 3 times. Lotto ticket today

Depends on the software level it's on vs the newest flash available. That's what will determine whether it's overwritten or not (provided the UIF was written on the previous update).