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Bruce, thank you for the info. I am definitely saving up for a supercharger. I guess my end goal at the moment is to get the car to feel like stock sea level. I'm not sure if bolt-ons will get me there, but if it can then it will hold me off until I am able to drop my pennies for a FI kit.
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Im in Denver too and coming from a tuned 335i. The tuned 335 kills it at the drag strip but cant match the sound and handling of the M3.
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SID, as Bruce mentioned above, FI cars are less prone to HP loss on high altitude. Do some suspension mod and you will be good to go. I'm just slowly counting the days when I can get a FI kit for my car.
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But just think about the improved mileage you're getting...
I used to live at almost 9000 ft and I lost something like 25% of the 500hp I had in my MB ML63. |
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I lived in NM for 6 years. It's a beautiful state with some of the most outstanding sunsets! Don't even get me started on the green chili!
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I grew to love the green chili, especially the green chili stew. Don't get me started about the sunsets, it's one of the best ones I've seen in a long while...
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Currently I'm going to Chevron and using their 91oct. I found a place that has 100oct, I'm giving that a try either today or sometime this weekend...
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I lived in many places and NM is the worst. Mexico should just buy it from the govt and help pay off the trillion dollar deficit.
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I went to Shell thinking they had it, but to my surprise they only carry 91. Few folks suggested using octane booster, never used it before, willing to experiment at this point. I will report back after using the 100oct. A friend told me that using 100oct with out a 100oct tune won't make that much of a difference.
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It breaks my heart that our car performs soooooo poorly at high altitude. Supercharger is definitely the way to go to get the beast back from these beauties.
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Welcome to the "DirtyQureque" OP. I lived in England near Sea Level when I got my M3 and I moved here (PCS-Military orders) about 1.5 years ago and yeah, especially during the summer, the DA (density altidute; Pressure altitude corrected for temperature) is more like over 8,000ft. So our car has lost about 20% estimated. But so has everyone else too.
A supercharger for sure will help but I moded mine with HFC X-pipe, DINAN stage II (passes emissions here now with no CEL) and a DINAN pully. I pulled about 350hp at the wheel at a local shops dyno with the correction factor. It'll be a nice treat when you drive cross country to a lower altitude and you'll feel the power return. Its not too bad during the winter as the DA will drop to about the elevation altitude of 5,300ft or less below 0 degrees Celsius. But I'd be much more worried of driving your M3 here in the South West desert. I've gone through 2 windshields already due to flying rocks and about to get a 3rd. Plus the New Mexico drivers are real idiots. Be on your guard for every driver out here. Real baboons driving. Good luck! By the way, check out http://www.racingsouthwest.com/ and also http://www.arroyosecoraceway.com/index.html probebly the only two things to do around here to enjoy your M3. I'm part of a small group of co-workers with sports cars that from Spring till Fall regularly do some driving events around the state if you ever get board and want to meet up. Good luck! Rob |
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Just go ahead and get bolt-ons for both the wife and the car
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I'm still getting use to the altitude and the crazy ABQ drivers. I guess they just don't believe in signaling when changing lanes. I also noticed their erratic behavior when navigating lane changes. They say NY drivers are the worse, man I beg to differ. I went to a local shop here called Motiva, unfortunately most shops, including Motiva specializes in american and japanese cars. The guy I spoke knows little about M3s, but assured me they can tune the car for the altitude and thin air. I guess I have to wait and find out. At this point I am seriously considering saving my pennies for a SC kit.
How does your car feel with the bolt on mods? I'm considering doing HFC, Pulleys, test pipes, xpipe, intake and tune. A few buddies of mine and I are going for a ride this Sunday. I think we are taking the back road to Santa Fe. Msg me if you want to go for a ride. Quote:
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You: Honey you know I love you very much She: Yes, dear, what do you want now? You: Well you know that M3 that I bought? Its a beautiful car and part of the reason tha I bought it is because I like to have this safety margin of knowing that if I'm in a situation where I need to stomp the throttle to escape danger I can do that. But since we moved up here, my car lost so much power that I can't bear to think about what would happen if I'm faced with this unusual situation. I'm pretty confident that I need a SC kit for safety reason She: well, safety is important, why don't you go ahead and buy one You: Thank you dear. All jokes aside, bolt ons will not get you the power levels back up. In the endn you will spend 60% of the cost of a supercharger. On top of that, the xpipe, and exhaust can be added on later for even more gains. There are plenty of used kits for sale now, well below 8K. I think VF is running a promotion on their kits right now too. Unless someone has forgotten to check/change the oil of the blower unit, these kits are pretty bullet proof, so buying used should not be a concern. My suggestion would be to get the charger if you are looking to gain those power levels back up. Good luck. |
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* You might get some of it back with those mods, but the only way to _really_ fix the problem is FI. * Sounds like you are more or less moving to hell for her benefit. That being said, both sides in a relationship need to compromise . . . So, you moved to ABQ to keep her happy? Well, this would make you happy . . . http://www.esstuning.com/products/E9...er-System.html |
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