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It sounds like the OP is trying to justify getting the auto...I mean DCT.
I do think you have more control of the car with a manual. That being said, I might have gone with the DCT if I had to deal with traffic on a daily basis.
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+1; every driver has had to stop short; and does it with both feet as instinct |
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I also am not clear what you mean by "stopping the car and the engine's forward momentum" vs. "stopping the cars momentum". You can't separate the engine from the car. Or at least you shouldn't. |
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There are some people here who have been driving manual transmission for more than 10 years |
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All I know is that it is to hard to text while driving a 6MT so I suspect that makes it a much safer car
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05-17-2012, 08:09 PM | #30 |
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I am sure we are being trolled and this is a direct response to this thread..
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691942 These DCT guys constantly feel the need to even up the score..I am surprised he didnt come out with the usual money shift argument..nice spin w the accident angle |
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05-17-2012, 08:09 PM | #31 |
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I would agree that a properly functioning DCT is likely to be safer than a 6MT for a variety of reasons, the most important of which is that the DCT just doesn't make mistakes, so its less likely to unsettle the car.
The difference is probably very small, and will vary inversely with the skill of the 6MT driver. Imagine a 90 year old driving a 6MT vs a DCT. Speaking only of the transmission, which is more likely to lead to a problem or even an accident?
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I've found that it is even more important to worry about following distance and paying attention to the vehicle in front of you. Whatever theoretical advanatage either transmission may/may not have, you can't beat situational awareness and not doing dumb things like tailgating. |
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The only reason I went for a DCT was the wife. I am glad that I did it, though. It's the first car I've even owned that has any sort of automatic mode, yet it retains the joy of chosing shift points. If I feel the need to experience things with a manual transmission, I do have one of the slicker versions in my 2003 S2K. |
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When your ON the gas and the RPMs are flying upward, hitting the brakes alone means the brakes not only have to slow the car, but it also has to slow down the engines RPMs. Now if your just coming to a stop and not on the gas, then yes I engine braking totally helps. Like, take off and once in 2nd, and RPMs are climbing to say 6K, now slam the brakes only while leaving it in gear. Now do the same thing, but push both the clutch and brakes. I seem to think that doing both in THAT situation would get your car to stop faster. Maybe Im wrong?
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a panic stop is done 10 times a lap at the track and has nothing to do with the transmission at all in the first portion of slowing. you stand on the brakes then as speed is bled off you downshift?
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sometimes the stick prevents this so it might be safer but less fun.
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Oh, I would argue chupa is less fun than manual!
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I'm sure my DCT is more dangerous.
When driving, I do not know whether to use the paddle shifters, or the stick...so confusing...during a curve or a sharp turn, don't use the paddle shifters, but only on a straight-line...and then when approaching a stopped vehicle, my mind wanders between the two options, and then there's that whole down-shift thing and engine braking...and then because the top is down I see a bird flying that is interesting...oh, yeah, the car in front of me is stopped.... paddle shifter or stick? Hmmmm. Crashhhhhh...... Happens seven or eight dozen times per day. .
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OP....you need to improve your manual skills. once i get into my car everything comes naturally. who here steps on the missing clutch when starting an automatic car? i still do at times
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The only time unfortunatly I am tortured and forced to drive an automatic is when I have to rent a car..and every time Im trying to put my left foot thru the floor board..
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