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03-30-2015, 11:35 AM | #1 |
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E93 VT2-625 6MT: Defiv Lockdown kit? Users please chime in
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I recently had my VT2-625 kit installed and aside from the pretty engine bay, my car has completely transformed! Absolutely loving the kit. I've definitely made some passengers scream with the top off lol. Other than a custom AST coilover kit with 600/800lb springs and 295 PSS tires in the back, I'm looking to stabilize the rear end on launches. I recently purchased a Defiv lockdown kit from a forum member and am still debating installing it. From what I have read, this mod seems to have minimal diff whine, but I've read elsewhere that others have noticed it. Since I have a vert, I'd expect any extra diff whine to be present (if it isn't drowned out by the S65/blower or the IPE). The kit I purchased was missing the bushings - what size/kind are they and do they have to be obtained from Defiv? I have emailed them several times and haven't gotten a reply. And apparently there are some subtle installation differences between the E92 and E93 - anybody have the details? I'd like to see if other Defiv users have any other experience with this. Thanks!
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BP - I don't have any experience with the Defiv diff brace but I did ask Malek from MRF to suggest a solution for the nasty wheel hop I was experience with my car. He recommended solid sub-frame bushings and Delrin diff bushings as the best solution. I asked about the poly diff bushings but he said the Delrin bushings were just a bit louder but performed much better so I went that route. I will be installing in a few weeks and will provide my feedback if you'd like to wait on the Defiv install...
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03-30-2015, 12:56 PM | #4 |
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Thanks WickedE93 and 81Bear,
I was thinking along the lines of subframe bushings too but just really want the most quiet option out there. I'd love to hear y'all's experience with those options as well.
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Additionally, you might be interested in this thread http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1083365 |
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Everything I've read says the additional noise is a result of the diff bushings not the subframe bushings.
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I have the solid subframe bushings and don't really notice any additional noise. OP: Love the paint job on the manifold, looks great!
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I'm in Dallas. Was trying to make it to MFest a while back but alas... I had prior engagements. PM'd!
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Was thinking that route as well as I heard it's the most effective... I'll hit you up if I decided to pull the trigger on that supercharger tune. Missing the extra options...
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Since we are on the subject of bushings, for the convertibles (particularly supercharged verts), does the convertibles' reinforced framing resolve some of the bushings issue for additional support or do you have the same concerns in having to reinforce the subframe over time?
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I am cross linking the thread below with this one since there is some good info in both for those who may be looking in the future.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1040389 I am still on the fence about how stiff I want to go. My main concern is the one that led to the Defi brace -- broken diff mounts. I don't just want stiffer or solid subframe bushings for better handling. If the diff moves too much within the subframe the diff mounts can break and the subframe can be damaged. |
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Thanks Malek,
I am considering solid subframe bushings in addition to the defiv versus a mild durometer diff bushings. I was wondering whether the solid subframe bushings would help the additional bracing in the E93. Thanks for the info!
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Solid rear diff mounts do the most good, but also will cause the most NHV. Even with my SC and loud exhaust you still hear it, but it does put the power down WAY better and of course gets rid of pesky rear diff bolts snapping.
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Did you do a review after the install? And what tires are you running may I ask? Thx.
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Solid diff and subframe bushings here. Truth, the diff whine is a subjective item. With the windows down, music on, or when getting on the gas, the whine is difficult to detect. Windows up cruising and the whine is present but I do not notice it anymore, and to be honest, I sort of like it. If your the type of guy/gal that likes exhaust and engine noise, you will probably like the whine.
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A couple forum members know this already, but I am working on a damper isolator kit that should reduce the differential whine.
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After I had it done the wheel hop was gone period, car put down power much better and overall felt far more solid/planted. Only downside is the slight diff whine, which you do become use to untill someone gets in car and goes... hey whats that noise? After I put on the ESS 625 kit I switched over to Falken AZENIS RT-615K 275/35/18 front and 315/30/18 rear. I only spin in first and 2nd when I really punch it but car digs in, 3rd is rock solid. DSC off of course. I did a rough exhaust video,at 3:30 when I get on the HWY I punch it pretty good with DSC off, as you can see I dont break loose very bad.
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