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      09-05-2016, 11:14 AM   #23
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Well had pleasure of doing 2 day Bondurant driving school here in AZ. Had 2 days to track a hellcat as,well as the 392 charger. Both 4500 pounds.

Short story is getting in my catless e92 m3 every day to go home was a joy. I'd never trade an e92 for a hellcat. 700 hp or not the experience wasn't nearly as cool as our e92 or m3s in general. Our cars feel like go karts.

Second I realized 99 percent of people on the Internet complaining about a cars weight has had no proper driving education. The first day 8 of us got onto a Mercedes school bus,like thing and an instructor proceeded to slalom, and go around 2 mile track at blazing speed and was fast. It was nuts to see car control like that. Once I learned fluid weight control, 4500 pounds was a non issue. Of course it eats up tires and brakes but dynamics of driving were absolutely fine. So people who complain m3s at 3600 pounds are pigs, clearly aren't trained.

Overall an amazing experience that gave me a lot of confidence to hit the track this season . They have viper classes as well. They regularly get Nascar guys and pro racers to hone skills and I was very impressed.

Bottom line, hellcat has big torque and is a straight line monster but runs 285 rears and can hardly put power down. Point is overall driving experience was a million times better in an e92 or f80 m3 despite,300 less hp. 1st gear goes to 60 to give you an idea of how long gears are so 700 hp doesn't feel as fast as I thought but with gears that long I see why
This is so true. I had a 300C SRT-8 and it was about 4200lbs. I took it to VIR one year and everyone was looking at me like what is that boat doing here??! Well, an instructor who had been driving this course for 20+ years took my car out in the advanced group and absolutely destroyed everything on the track including Porsches, Audi's, and even a Ford GT. A pro driver with the skills can make everything faster.
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