BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Wheels + Tires Sponsored by The Tire Rack
  TireRack

KEEP M3POST ALIVE BY DOING YOUR TIRERACK SHOPPING FROM THIS BANNER LINK!
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      12-23-2013, 05:28 PM   #133
Longboarder
Major General
Longboarder's Avatar
3374
Rep
6,765
Posts

Drives: 2016 BMW i8
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Monarch Beach

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Going beyond 255/275 on stock ZCPs will not perform as well...either on the track or in a straight line. I never understood why people would go larger unless they are going for a "blocky" look. Just get the correct tire size and an alignment from a place that specializes in M3's for so they can dial the specs for your driving needs.
__________________
Current BMWs: 2021 X5M, 2012 e92 M3, 2022 X5 40i, 2016 X5 50i
2015 Porsche 991 Turbo S
a couple others
IG: longboarder949; YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT1...eoFBszPIK0gf9w
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2013, 10:12 AM   #134
M3 Pilot
Lieutenant
M3 Pilot's Avatar
Australia
74
Rep
478
Posts

Drives: 17' F80 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kawasaki00 View Post
I think that is The Tech, last I heard he had zcp with 18mm spacers.
Sorry for the thread revival but that was me.

No spacers. No rub with 2 pax 75kg each in the back, Front Pax 90kg with me driving.

In fact, the car bottomed out a bit when I went over a hump so I'm pretty sure shocks were close to full compression.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=880474&page=2
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2013, 11:57 AM   #135
jra85
M3NTAL
jra85's Avatar
United_States
131
Rep
608
Posts

Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (1)

I was recently wondering if you ever made a decision Give them some seat time and let us know how you like them.
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2013, 01:04 PM   #136
ssabripo
HALA MADRID!
ssabripo's Avatar
United_States
937
Rep
2,877
Posts

Drives: camels & donkeys
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plantation, Fl

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longboarder
Going beyond 255/275 on stock ZCPs will not perform as well...either on the track or in a straight line. I never understood why people would go larger unless they are going for a "blocky" look. Just get the correct tire size and an alignment from a place that specializes in M3's for so they can dial the specs for your driving needs.
Smaller and stiffer sidewalls, wider surface area contact, etc, all point to the notion that 295 is "too big" is incorrect.

I don't have a preference either way, so I'll see what real world experience says... A few spirited drives and a day at track should give me a good idea shortly.
__________________

F87 M2 Competition, Sunset Orange, Exc, DCT.
**SOLD** F80 M3 Mineral Grey/Sakir Orange, Exc, DCT... ED 6/2015
**SOLD**E90 M3, Interlagos Blue / M individual two-tone, ZCP, ZP2, ZCV, DCT, ED.
Appreciate 0
      12-24-2013, 01:06 PM   #137
yoelev
First Lieutenant
yoelev's Avatar
19
Rep
366
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC

iTrader: (0)

I went with the gts set up. Looks and feels great right now. Potenzas.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      12-27-2013, 08:18 AM   #138
M3 Pilot
Lieutenant
M3 Pilot's Avatar
Australia
74
Rep
478
Posts

Drives: 17' F80 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAdamz View Post
I was recently wondering if you ever made a decision Give them some seat time and let us know how you like them.
I've no complains about the 265/295 route. The added traction is quite noticeable on highspeed long corners.

Might feel a little adventurous to try 275/295 when this set wears out.
Appreciate 0
      12-27-2013, 02:15 PM   #139
ssabripo
HALA MADRID!
ssabripo's Avatar
United_States
937
Rep
2,877
Posts

Drives: camels & donkeys
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plantation, Fl

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAdamz View Post
I was recently wondering if you ever made a decision Give them some seat time and let us know how you like them.
yep, I got some track time coming up soon... had them mounted today, so i'll give them a few days before I even think of commenting.
Quote:
Originally Posted by M3 Pilot View Post
I've no complains about the 265/295 route. The added traction is quite noticeable on highspeed long corners.

Might feel a little adventurous to try 275/295 when this set wears out.


Like I said, I respect everyone's opinion, specially those who've contributed to this thread or had experience with this setup, but logically speaking it makes sense that the wider surface contact area, the slightly smaller yet stiffer sidewall, etc, would give you better traction specially on cornering.... we shall see soon enough.
__________________

F87 M2 Competition, Sunset Orange, Exc, DCT.
**SOLD** F80 M3 Mineral Grey/Sakir Orange, Exc, DCT... ED 6/2015
**SOLD**E90 M3, Interlagos Blue / M individual two-tone, ZCP, ZP2, ZCV, DCT, ED.
Appreciate 0
      01-29-2014, 09:29 AM   #140
ZEY
New Member
ZEY's Avatar
South Africa
0
Rep
24
Posts

Drives: 2010 BMW M3 Coupe
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: South Africa

iTrader: (0)

Smile 295/30

Sorry to bring this up again but I need to replace tyres and am considering 255/35F and 295/30R so just wanted to know what were your findings with your setup?
I will be taking off the 220 wheels and fitting the zcp wheels on a standard e92 M3.

Thanks
Appreciate 0
      01-29-2014, 12:10 PM   #141
Millie
Lieutenant
Millie's Avatar
Canada
120
Rep
595
Posts

Drives: a bmw.
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Saskatchatoon

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZEY View Post
Sorry to bring this up again but I need to replace tyres and am considering 255/35F and 295/30R so just wanted to know what were your findings with your setup?
I will be taking off the 220 wheels and fitting the zcp wheels on a standard e92 M3.

Thanks
You'll be the first one to run this set-up so don't bother doing your own research. No data. At all.
__________________
2022 Nissan Armada (big couch)
2017 Camaro SS 1LE - Gone
2008 SSII E90 6MT - Gone
2009 SG E92 DCT - Gone
Appreciate 0
      01-29-2014, 08:21 PM   #142
ssabripo
HALA MADRID!
ssabripo's Avatar
United_States
937
Rep
2,877
Posts

Drives: camels & donkeys
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plantation, Fl

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Millie View Post
You'll be the first one to run this set-up so don't bother doing your own research. No data. At all.
Ugh, that's incorrect....

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=17
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=25
__________________

F87 M2 Competition, Sunset Orange, Exc, DCT.
**SOLD** F80 M3 Mineral Grey/Sakir Orange, Exc, DCT... ED 6/2015
**SOLD**E90 M3, Interlagos Blue / M individual two-tone, ZCP, ZP2, ZCV, DCT, ED.
Appreciate 0
      01-30-2014, 11:15 AM   #143
Dave07997S
Brigadier General
705
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2020 Ford Mustang GT
Join Date: May 2009
Location: El Segundo, CA

iTrader: (1)

I think he was being sarcastic...
__________________
2020 Ford Mustang GT 6MT PP1 444rwhp
(Sold)2013 M3 Coupe-MR/BLK ZCP, 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk
2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats
2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk
Appreciate 0
      01-30-2014, 11:50 AM   #144
325rider
Captain
United_States
36
Rep
826
Posts

Drives: '11 e90 M3 6mt
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Miami, Fl

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Millie View Post
You'll be the first one to run this set-up so don't bother doing your own research. No data. At all.
Appreciate 0
      01-30-2014, 11:55 AM   #145
jra85
M3NTAL
jra85's Avatar
United_States
131
Rep
608
Posts

Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post
Ugh, that's incorrect....
Have you had a chance to take it to the track yet to derive some opinions there?

Also, any reason why you stuck with 255/35s up front rather than 275/30? Concerns over handling characteristics?
Appreciate 0
      01-30-2014, 06:27 PM   #146
ssabripo
HALA MADRID!
ssabripo's Avatar
United_States
937
Rep
2,877
Posts

Drives: camels & donkeys
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plantation, Fl

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave07997S View Post
I think he was being sarcastic...
Quote:
Originally Posted by 325rider View Post
werd....my bad
__________________

F87 M2 Competition, Sunset Orange, Exc, DCT.
**SOLD** F80 M3 Mineral Grey/Sakir Orange, Exc, DCT... ED 6/2015
**SOLD**E90 M3, Interlagos Blue / M individual two-tone, ZCP, ZP2, ZCV, DCT, ED.
Appreciate 0
      01-30-2014, 06:29 PM   #147
ssabripo
HALA MADRID!
ssabripo's Avatar
United_States
937
Rep
2,877
Posts

Drives: camels & donkeys
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Plantation, Fl

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JAdamz View Post
Have you had a chance to take it to the track yet to derive some opinions there?

Also, any reason why you stuck with 255/35s up front rather than 275/30? Concerns over handling characteristics?
Im going to Homestead on 3/1...the date for tomorrow (2/1) wont happen because a) it's horrendous weather, and b) I have a piano recital for my kid.

I stuck with 255 for now because a) still had thread, and b) wanted to see how the handling is affected with larger footprint delta on the staggered setup...if not good (too much oversteer, etc), then I'll put some 265's up front.
__________________

F87 M2 Competition, Sunset Orange, Exc, DCT.
**SOLD** F80 M3 Mineral Grey/Sakir Orange, Exc, DCT... ED 6/2015
**SOLD**E90 M3, Interlagos Blue / M individual two-tone, ZCP, ZP2, ZCV, DCT, ED.
Appreciate 0
      02-03-2014, 08:03 AM   #148
M3 Pilot
Lieutenant
M3 Pilot's Avatar
Australia
74
Rep
478
Posts

Drives: 17' F80 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Australia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ssabripo View Post
Im going to Homestead on 3/1...the date for tomorrow (2/1) wont happen because a) it's horrendous weather, and b) I have a piano recital for my kid.

I stuck with 255 for now because a) still had thread, and b) wanted to see how the handling is affected with larger footprint delta on the staggered setup...if not good (too much oversteer, etc), then I'll put some 265's up front.
I think you meant Understeer.

265/30-295/30 is fine for a daily. I did not notice the increase in ride comfort with the 30 profile.

Ideally you need to take the car to the track to notice the traction limits which I have not.

For daily duties, it felt the same as factory PS2.

Looks wise, they do look a tad aggressive from the rear.

In heavy rain, they are quite on par with factory PS2. I was expecting some Aquaplaning and pulling to either side with 295s.
Appreciate 0
      02-03-2014, 10:20 AM   #149
llis
octane chick
llis's Avatar
United_States
78
Rep
1,187
Posts

Drives: ex-M
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Colorado

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2013 BMW M3 ZCP  [10.00]
2003 BMW M5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by M3 Pilot View Post
265/30-295/30 is fine for a daily. I did not notice the increase in ride comfort with the 30 profile.

Ideally you need to take the car to the track to notice the traction limits which I have not.

For daily duties, it felt the same as factory PS2.

Looks wise, they do look a tad aggressive from the rear.

In heavy rain, they are quite on par with factory PS2. I was expecting some Aquaplaning and pulling to either side with 295s.
TBH I'm surprised that those fit well on the ZCP wheels. I may have to look into this as I'm not thrilled with the 255-275/35R19 PSSs I have now--too mushy compared to AD08s--so I may be tire shopping this year.
Appreciate 0
      02-05-2014, 07:26 AM   #150
MilehighM3
Brigadier General
MilehighM3's Avatar
United_States
910
Rep
3,452
Posts

Drives: Harrop E90 M3
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs

iTrader: (14)

Garage List
2009 E90 M3  [6.50]
My car had 255/35 and 295/30 when I picked it up. Compared to my square setup for the track there is a noticeable difference in oversteer, which I was not expecting at all. Mainly on corner entry or if you lift at all, even slightly. This has remained the same through a few different suspension setups as well. Including KW Clubsports, Dinan stage 1 and now the Ohlins R&T. I'd like a wider tire up front but I already have clearance issues as is with my BBS wheels. It seems the E92 has much more forgiving wheel wells than the E90 does. I wouldn't recommend that fitment unless you're just a straight line type of driver.
Appreciate 0
      12-23-2014, 01:16 PM   #151
yoelev
First Lieutenant
yoelev's Avatar
19
Rep
366
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC

iTrader: (0)

so back in the market for a new set. what do you guys recommend these days? will say the potenzas were GOOD but not GREAT they felt a little floaty on the highway and not as stuck to the ground as the pzero or the pss. i did like the look of the wider tires but not sure i felt like the car was in a better place performance wise.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      02-11-2015, 10:42 PM   #152
BombaE90
Private
BombaE90's Avatar
9
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 2011 E90 M3
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Miami, Fl

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MilehighM3 View Post
My car had 255/35 and 295/30 when I picked it up. Compared to my square setup for the track there is a noticeable difference in oversteer, which I was not expecting at all. Mainly on corner entry or if you lift at all, even slightly. This has remained the same through a few different suspension setups as well. Including KW Clubsports, Dinan stage 1 and now the Ohlins R&T. I'd like a wider tire up front but I already have clearance issues as is with my BBS wheels. It seems the E92 has much more forgiving wheel wells than the E90 does. I wouldn't recommend that fitment unless you're just a straight line type of driver.
I keep seeing comments like the bold statement. I'm supercharging my E90 M3 and looking for more rear grip. It seems like 295 might be a bit too wide, but there is an E90 pictured above on 295s.

I've got the competition package, so I'm thinking there will be rubbing with 295s on the rear of a comp package E90.

Thoughts?
Appreciate 0
      02-11-2015, 10:49 PM   #153
MilehighM3
Brigadier General
MilehighM3's Avatar
United_States
910
Rep
3,452
Posts

Drives: Harrop E90 M3
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs

iTrader: (14)

Garage List
2009 E90 M3  [6.50]
That should be fine, especially if being used on the stock wheels. My car is lowered and had issues over dips in the road, especially at highway speeds or with passengers in the rear seat.
Appreciate 0
      02-12-2015, 08:34 AM   #154
jra85
M3NTAL
jra85's Avatar
United_States
131
Rep
608
Posts

Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Long Island, NY

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BombaE90 View Post
I've got the competition package, so I'm thinking there will be rubbing with 295s on the rear of a comp package E90.
My understanding is that 295s, at least in PSS, will not rub (at least not significantly enough to really notice) on an E90 ZCP. I'm aware of two E90s that did this setup without issue.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:52 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST