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Even E46 M3 SMG vs. 6 spd shows major differences. In that case it's actually the same transmission and clutch. I own one of both, they are nearly completely different driving experiences. |
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12-19-2012, 10:00 AM | #69 | |
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What specificly would you say is faster or better? These are very broad terms we're using. |
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12-19-2012, 10:37 AM | #70 | |
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Why is it faster? - Shifts far faster than any human - No perceivable loss of acceleration while shifting gears - No time to release clutch off the line - Perfect launch every time - Shorter gears and seven of them Why is is better? - Objectively is is better - Subjectively I and some others prefer manual despite the technological superiority of DCT, but it's been debated to death already. For my preferences, 6MT -> SMG -> DCT. Who doesn't like a nice kick in the face at redline while shifting? I actually want seamless shifts in a car I am driving for fun. |
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12-19-2012, 10:57 AM | #71 | |
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The biggest factor making it feel faster is that it's a 7 speed. Shorter gearing makes for a quicker ride |
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12-19-2012, 11:19 AM | #72 |
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In case anyone missed it, I opted to keep my 2011 DCT.
My question about the change was not soley a DCT vs Manual decision. In my mind, it included getting the very last year V8 M3, the exterior color change, interior color change, a new option (BMW Apps) as well as the transmission change. But again, I do thank you guys for helping me with my choice.
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12-19-2012, 12:47 PM | #73 | |
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Hi I have got a manual 2008 m3 (in Black) and it is great i would not swap it for a DCT model because i think a manual is a proper drivers car ??? and the DCT is great on a track but you cant beat the manual on the road !!!!
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12-19-2012, 03:32 PM | #75 | |
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The main purposes of the 1M were to get an M car further down the price ladder, and more to the point, break down resistance to the I6 turbo concept for the next gen M3. I did not feel that the 1M transmission was anything special and suspect that the shift knob is a big part of any perceived improvement. |
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12-19-2012, 04:48 PM | #77 | |
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If you were a die hard MT fan, then you would have sold our car a long time ago and made the switch. Before I purchased/ordered my car I was searching for a SG with MT and Comp Pack and I found many SG w/ DCT and Comp Pack and I didn't buy them. I knew I could never live with DCT, so I ordered one from factory and waited for a couple months. You know the answer in your heart, just listen to it. I'm perfectly happy with my MT. I'm not tracking her, I don't hit much traffic so I don't need DCT.
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I think when the F30 will come out it will inevitably have something better replacement to the DCT and maybe a CVT twin turbo. In any way the E92 will take a pretty big plunge when the full story comes out on the F30. I am not talking about the engine block. As we know that's the one part the E92 has that the F30 will not be able to take away. But DCT, brakes and the such... you bet they will look old and less desirable. |
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mineral white and fox red is a beautiful combination. it does not look like a candy cane!
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Rather than roll to another E92 w/ 6MT I'd do a Carrera + 7MT.
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It sounds as if you have a manual you can't drive it on the track. You can track your car if you have a manual as well. It's all about how much fun you have. You're never going to be the fastest one out there and you certainly won't be the last one out there.
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OP. I thinking of doing the same thing and replacing my 2011. My only problem is I love the color but such a bitch to keep clean.
In reference to the manual it the best thing ever. It will feel slower but the satisfaction of always changing gears is priceless. GL with your decision.
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