SC confused !

davramic · 11-01-2012, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by EssM3

You should STFU

your not here to teach me what the forum was created for.

Donbona · 11-01-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by EssM3

You should STFU

your not here to teach me what the forum was created for.

People like you ate not needed on this forum. People like you shouldn't have kids to be taught the same values that you have which is probably zero. People like you should never own a decent car period.

MStar · 11-01-2012, 12:58 PM

Chriskm3 · 11-01-2012, 03:29 PM

After all of this it would be funny if I didn't buy anything at all. But somehow after this showdown I feel obligated to a purchase. ! Order placed. Two weeks for delivery. Cheers

GirlsGarage · 11-01-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Donbona

People like you ate not needed on this forum. People like you shouldn't have kids to be taught the same values that you have which is probably zero. People like you should never own a decent car period.

Why r u relating such subject to manners! Is is it just because a say sounded funny to me?

I can teach u manners. I can see that ur here just to demonestrate how silly you r.. talking about other people u don't realy know.

VCMpower · 11-01-2012, 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Chriskm3;12926560]After all of this it would be funny if I didn't buy anything at all. But somehow after this showdown I feel obligated to a purchase. ! Order placed. Two weeks for delivery. Cheers[/QUOTE

bubu · 11-01-2012, 04:38 PM

to add fuel to the fire...

Which kits have blown motors & how many have they blown (pun intended)!

Alex07M3 · 11-01-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

Im good friends with these guys who make really good SC kits so well see

lol

Jon@Bimmersport Automotive · 11-01-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bubu

to add fuel to the fire...

Which kits have blown motors & how many have they blown (pun intended)!

That's what we are trying to avoid in the thread, which is what the OP is agreeing to.

Thank you & congrats on the purchase Chris! We are looking forward our installation date.

aus · 11-01-2012, 05:03 PM

The only blown motors I've seen are from a beta tune or someone really pushing beyond the boundary of what was considered safe.

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sales@ESSTuning · 11-01-2012, 05:08 PM

We will be announcing some updates to our current SC mix very soon so stay tuned

Donbona · 11-01-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EssM3

Why r u relating such subject to manners! Is is it just because a say sounded funny to me?

I can teach u manners. I can see that ur here just to demonestrate how silly you r.. talking about other people u don't realy know.

Can you type that in English please

IMG · 11-01-2012, 06:04 PM

Good Luck with your choice man !

Top_Gear · 11-01-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

We will be announcing some updates to our current SC mix very soon so stay tuned

Performance Updates? When will you make the announcement, in a week, in a month?

CBS · 11-01-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

We will be announcing some updates to our current SC mix very soon so stay tuned

Oh crap! Just when I was getting ahead on my monthly expenses....

sales@ESSTuning · 11-01-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Gear

Performance Updates? When will you make the announcement, in a week, in a month?

Hopefully by Monday.

OM VT3 · 11-01-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

Hopefully by Monday.

Should I expect much for the 650kit?

Merked M3 · 11-01-2012, 11:09 PM

ESS and VF kits are generally cheaper - more value
AA and G-Power are more expensive - more premium

But they are all in the same ballpark and if you get any installed, 8000rpm will make you smile and give you an instant adrenaline rush. #troll haha

SflBimmer8484 · 11-02-2012, 10:48 AM

Add meth to the 625 kit and the price will be about the same as ours.

sales@ESSTuning · 11-02-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Add meth to the 625 kit and the price will be about the same as ours.

Our kits do not need meth to make solid power and we do not need it to keep the motor safe so it is an unnessary added expense for the vast majority of our customers.

GOVCO · 11-02-2012, 12:50 PM

Can someone finally just drive down here to MD and give me a freakin ride already. You guys have the S/C, not me. It will take me twice as long to get to one of you S/C cars. OP, buy whatever kit you want at this point. Bottom line, S/C gonna be better than your stock....from a power, etc. standpoint.

DLSJ5 · 11-02-2012, 03:13 PM

Until we see proof otherwise, the HKS / Rotrex kits will not make as much peak power, and will not make as much power where it counts in the power band on the S65, compared to the Vortech kits with equal psi levels, that's just an objective fact. There are countless dyno's, trap speeds and 60-130's, that confirm this, rather than just one's arbitrary opinion or one dyno comparison. To be fair we have seen a dyno comparison where early and mid power ranges favor the HKS/Rotrex and peak power the Vortech, BUT the dyno comparisons are misleading, as both kits were not running the same psi or Water Meth, one would think those are important factors.

The S65's REAL power range, except from a dig, 1st gear ONLY, is ~6500/6800 to redline, the Vortech kits generally make more there, at times with less boost, WHERE IT COUNTS for most people racing in a straight line, if you want to argue about optimal power range for, tight turns, track, daily driving, etc go for it, but I'd say most people buy a SC'r kit to go faster in a straight line, not for track use, and until someone actually proves otherwise, the Vortech is the better blower for the S65 in that respect.

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bubu Bunny Slayer 83 Rep 501 Posts Drives: E92 M3 - DCT (2013) Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Orange County - Southern California iTrader: (0)	to add fuel to the fire... Which kits have blown motors & how many have they blown (pun intended)!
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aus Major General 890 Rep 9,031 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	The only blown motors I've seen are from a beta tune or someone really pushing beyond the boundary of what was considered safe. . __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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Merked M3 First Lieutenant 30 Rep 361 Posts Drives: E90 M3 6MT Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sunnyvale, CA iTrader: (0)	ESS and VF kits are generally cheaper - more value AA and G-Power are more expensive - more premium But they are all in the same ballpark and if you get any installed, 8000rpm will make you smile and give you an instant adrenaline rush. #troll haha __________________ 2008 E90 M3 6-MT - Sold but not forgotten - amazing car The next car, my Porsche Cayman S
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GOVCO Lieutenant 16 Rep 439 Posts Drives: 09 E90 AW M3 DCT [Slight Mods] Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	Can someone finally just drive down here to MD and give me a freakin ride already. You guys have the S/C, not me. It will take me twice as long to get to one of you S/C cars. OP, buy whatever kit you want at this point. Bottom line, S/C gonna be better than your stock....from a power, etc. standpoint.
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DLSJ5 Brigadier General 501 Rep 4,033 Posts Drives: 2016 F82 M4 ZCP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	Until we see proof otherwise, the HKS / Rotrex kits will not make as much peak power, and will not make as much power where it counts in the power band on the S65, compared to the Vortech kits with equal psi levels, that's just an objective fact. There are countless dyno's, trap speeds and 60-130's, that confirm this, rather than just one's arbitrary opinion or one dyno comparison. To be fair we have seen a dyno comparison where early and mid power ranges favor the HKS/Rotrex and peak power the Vortech, BUT the dyno comparisons are misleading, as both kits were not running the same psi or Water Meth, one would think those are important factors. The S65's REAL power range, except from a dig, 1st gear ONLY, is ~6500/6800 to redline, the Vortech kits generally make more there, at times with less boost, WHERE IT COUNTS for most people racing in a straight line, if you want to argue about optimal power range for, tight turns, track, daily driving, etc go for it, but I'd say most people buy a SC'r kit to go faster in a straight line, not for track use, and until someone actually proves otherwise, the Vortech is the better blower for the S65 in that respect. __________________ 16 F82 M4 DCT - ZCP - JB4 - 556WHP / 570WTQ 08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH
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