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View Poll Results: what engine oil you're happy with?
Mobil 1 0w-40 37 27.82%
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      06-27-2015, 05:35 PM   #1
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Mobil 1 0w-40 or Castrol 10w-60...pros,cons

What engine oil are you using, their pros and cons?
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What engine oil are you using, their pros and cons?
There's a dozen threads that go into this. I hate saying it, but do a search; it's been discussed ad nauseum.
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There's a dozen threads that go into this. I hate saying it, but do a search; it's been discussed ad nauseum.
This is a poll, derp.
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This is a poll, derp.
Sorry man but your poll is not possible .
Why ?
Because Castrol is out of the BMW oil range .
Castrol is replaced by "BMW ///M TWINPOWER TURBO SAE 10W60" for the S65 and made by Shell .
I just posted a pic of this oil here => # 9 http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...7#post18163947
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Sorry man but your poll is not possible .
Why ?
Because Castrol is out of the BMW oil range .
Castrol is replaced by "BMW ///M TWINPOWER TURBO SAE 10W60" for the S65 and made by Shell .
I just posted a pic of this oil here => # 9 http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...7#post18163947
People who do their own oil changes have acces to castrol 10w60. If you use that twinpower stuff mark other and describe.
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People who do their own oil changes have acces to castrol 10w60. If you use that twinpower stuff mark other and describe.
Thank-you!
That's ok for me , for me it's Castrol /EDGE .
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After running M1 0w-40, I've just gone back to TWS 10w-60, after 3k km. The reason I went with TWS is because BMW Australia haven't swapped to Shell yet. Don't know why.

To be honest, I thought M1 was a great oil for the car. But switching back to TWS, I just realised what a difference it makes. The engine feels a lot stronger and the exhaust note is a lot deeper. It was lot raspier, I for a while I was wonder whether my ///PE was cracked or the internals had broken. But since swapping to TWS it all changed. I am happy
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After running M1 0w-40, I've just gone back to TWS 10w-60, after 3k km. The reason I went with TWS is because BMW Australia haven't swapped to Shell yet. Don't know why.

To be honest, I thought M1 was a great oil for the car. But switching back to TWS, I just realised what a difference it makes. The engine feels a lot stronger and the exhaust note is a lot deeper. It was lot raspier, I for a while I was wonder whether my ///PE was cracked or the internals had broken. But since swapping to TWS it all changed. I am happy
Welcome back to 10W60 .
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After running M1 0w-40, I've just gone back to TWS 10w-60, after 3k km. The reason I went with TWS is because BMW Australia haven't swapped to Shell yet. Don't know why.

To be honest, I thought M1 was a great oil for the car. But switching back to TWS, I just realised what a difference it makes. The engine feels a lot stronger and the exhaust note is a lot deeper. It was lot raspier, I for a while I was wonder whether my ///PE was cracked or the internals had broken. But since swapping to TWS it all changed. I am happy
Thank-you

Ive just switched to M1, the engine felt kind of weak at first, also running a tad higher oil temps.
Still on the fence...
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The engine will not feel different with the different oil, it's in your mind. Temps might change but M1 0w-40 is not going to rob you of any power, if anything it would produce more. Placebo is strong. Check the BITOG forums.
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My oil temps also ran hotter with mobile 1 in my e92
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The myth of improving protection by increasing viscosity can actually be harmful to your engine in some circumstances. As much as 70 percent of the wear on an engine occurs at start up. That’s because while the engine has been off, the oil has an opportunity to drain back into the pan and away from the areas it needs to be. Obviously, you want to get oil back to the bearings, the cylinder walls and all the way up to the valve train as quickly as possible to bring the protection back where it should be.

So while a thicker, higher viscosity oil does usually provide a stronger film surface to protect the bearings, that only applies once the oil is in place and ready to do its job. But thicker oil is more resistant to flow, and it takes longer for the oil pump to push it through the oil galleries to where it needs to be. A thinner, lower viscosity oil flows more easily right at startup and gets to those critical areas more quickly. Because of that, a thinner oil can actually do a great job of reducing the wear an engine sees when it is first cranked.

But that’s not the only way the myth of more viscosity can hurt both your engine’s performance and protection. The oil’s viscosity must be properly matched to the components in order for both to work their best. “One of the easier and more popular ways to make more horsepower in modern engines is to use lightweight, thinner piston rings that have less tension between the ring and the wall of the cylinder bore,” Speed explains.

“If you use a motor oil that’s too thick for the application,” he continues, “one of the problems you can run into is those low-tension rings won’t be able to properly wipe the cylinder wall and too much oil will find its way into the combustion chamber.”
From one of the engine oil forums...your thoughts?
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After running M1 0w-40, I've just gone back to TWS 10w-60, after 3k km. The reason I went with TWS is because BMW Australia haven't swapped to Shell yet. Don't know why.

To be honest, I thought M1 was a great oil for the car. But switching back to TWS, I just realised what a difference it makes. The engine feels a lot stronger and the exhaust note is a lot deeper. It was lot raspier, I for a while I was wonder whether my ///PE was cracked or the internals had broken. But since swapping to TWS it all changed. I am happy
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The engine will not feel different with the different oil, it's in your mind. Temps might change but M1 0w-40 is not going to rob you of any power, if anything it would produce more. Placebo is strong. Check the BITOG forums.
I didn't say anything about loss of power. It felt week, may be because of the free-revving. There is no difference in the temp. It may be placebo, I thought about it too, but at the end of the day it's my decision.

I decided to change to M1, and I am going back to TWS/Shell. I am happy!
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Thank-you

Ive just switched to M1, the engine felt kind of weak at first, also running a tad higher oil temps.
Still on the fence...
I have taken a sample for BL testing. Will let the community know soon.
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OP, consider mixing in some Mobil 1 15W50 if you want it a little thicker.
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Redline 10w-60

I called Turner motorsports and they said this is what they recommend for both street and track.
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I called Turner motorsports and they said this is what they recommend for both street and track.
What is it?
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You don't see above in his post ? => "Redline 10w-60"
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