Michelin Pilot Sport Cup + OE Approval for BMW M3 Extended

footie · 11-16-2007, 09:51 AM

I know most on the forum won't believe me on this but I know this result was not a fair reflection of either of the two cars involve. I may have an Audi and will also defend their abilities, especially in wet conditions, this is in no way to run down what BMW cars are like as all rwd car, within reason perform similarly in these conditions, it's just that it's much harder to put the power to the surface when you only have two wheels to work with.

You may find this even harder to believe but back when this was wrote, Autocar were very much a Pro-BMW magazine, never did any other brand apart from Porshce or Ferrari win against them. I don't know if the head editor has changed but there has been a shift in their position to BMW and more and more other brands are winning reviews. In fact they have been very out-spoken on the new M3, feeling that it's not the car it was. Personally I don't agree with them on this and feel it's a much more complete car than any model the previously carry the M3 badge but that's me.

I defy anyone to drive their M3 or any rwd 3series down a twisty wet road as fast as my S5 will go and I know it's based on a newer chassis than the S4, but I know the differences between the two are slight when it comes to overall ability, only their behaviour has really changed not how well they handle.

Wads · 02-26-2008, 07:24 AM

Sorry to open an old thread but what tyres come as standard on the Euro spec 18" wheels? I've searched but can't find the answer.....

Epacy · 02-26-2008, 07:55 AM

You obviously haven't searched.

Wads · 02-26-2008, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epacy

You obviously haven't searched.

Yes I did..... various combinations of 18", tyres, tires, wheels.... result = "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms"

Thanks for your help!

rvacha · 02-26-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wads

Yes I did..... various combinations of 18", tyres, tires, wheels.... result = "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms"

Thanks for your help!

You're right! It seems the search engine doesn't like the " character. Try
18 wheels
18 tires
18 tyres

etc

You might also want to search the terms

Style 260
Style 219
Style 220

Good luck & happy searching!

southlight · 02-26-2008, 10:12 AM

LOL, guys, the answer is a one-liner, but nobody says it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wads

Sorry to open an old thread but what tyres come as standard on the Euro spec 18" wheels? I've searched but can't find the answer.....

18" wheels come on Michelin Pilot Sport 2 * tires (the * means it's a special version for the M3).

Best regards, south

Wads · 02-27-2008, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

LOL, guys, the answer is a one-liner, but nobody says it?

18" wheels come on Michelin Pilot Sport 2 * tires (the * means it's a special version for the M3).

Best regards, south

Thank you south! At least they are still good tyres even if not quite as hardcore as the Cup rubber.

sayemthree · 03-01-2008, 11:21 AM

I doubt the Cup will be supplied here in the USA. most test I have seen have PS2 on the car.

phoenixbmwlife · 03-02-2008, 12:15 AM

Where can we get the Michillin Sport cup tires? Does anyone know?

sayemthree · 03-02-2008, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K3N R3D

Where can we get the Michillin Sport cup tires? Does anyone know?

tirerack.com

southlight · 03-02-2008, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayemthree

I doubt the Cup will be supplied here in the USA. most test I have seen have PS2 on the car.

Yes, all US cars come standard on PS2 (both 18" and 19" wheels).

Best regards, south

footie · 03-02-2008, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

Yes, all US cars come standard on PS2 (both 18" and 19" wheels).

Best regards, south

This is true for the UK market as well. I asked to dealer about CUP tyres and was given a blank look which said it all.

southlight · 03-02-2008, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footie

This is true for the UK market as well. I asked to dealer about CUP tyres and was given a blank look which said it all.

My information is that all ECE region cars come on Cup+ (when 19"), which should include UK. Geesus got his car delivered on Cup+ tires.

Best regards, south

footie · 03-02-2008, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

My information is that all ECE region cars come on Cup+ (when 19"), which should include UK. Geesus got his car delivered on Cup+ tires.

Best regards, south

I was under the impression that this was a mistake, was that not the case? I will ask again at the dealer when I am over, but will be surprised to hear anything different than before.

phoenixbmwlife · 03-02-2008, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayemthree

tirerack.com

Thanks but I tried Tire Rack months ago but they don't have the correct dimensions. They sell the cup tires but not in the specs of the F19" 245/35 R19" 265/35.

I should have mentioned that in my previous post sorry.

phoenixbmwlife · 03-02-2008, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

My information is that all ECE region cars come on Cup+ (when 19"), which should include UK. Geesus got his car delivered on Cup+ tires.

Best regards, south

Hey you changed your picture.

southlight · 03-02-2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K3N R3D

Hey you changed your picture.

Yep!

Best regards, south

phoenixbmwlife · 03-02-2008, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

Yep!

Best regards, south

How you like me now South lol

ersin · 03-28-2008, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qship

... make my passengers get sweaty white knuckle syndrome...

I live to make my passengers get sweaty white knuckle syndrome!

1198r · 03-29-2008, 02:54 PM

Done 2000 miles on my pilot cup * tyres in the Shi!!*iest weather here in blighty - amazing tyres, lots of fun in the wet when the throttle is nailed with all electronic gizmos on and front end grip keeps surprising me....

In the one day where it was bone dry, I could have eaten anyone who dared to take me on! That's how confident I am in them.

Who cares if they will only last 5k miles. I already got another set

badfish · 04-01-2008, 11:53 PM

Wow, the PS2 tires aren't cheap.

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...ance&tc=MMIHZJ

Size Price
245/40R18 93Y BMW B $304.00
245/40ZR-18 93Y MB B $304.00
245/45ZR-18 96Y B $323.00
265/40ZR18XL N3 101Y $351.00
245/35R19XL94Y BMW B $373.00
265/30ZR-19 93Y XL B $383.00
265/35R-19 94Y N1 RB $398.00
265/35ZR-19 94Y NO B $398.00

swamp2 · 04-02-2008, 01:48 AM

Why is your post title referrring to the PSC+ yet the body refers to PS2? They are different tires (completely).

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