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      07-05-2011, 11:58 AM   #1
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23yr old Foxconn Worker Dies in the Bath After Working 60 Hours a Week

Having been in china and seeing how workers are treated there first hand, there is no absolutely reason for this to happen in any country.


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This. Is. Sad. 23 year old Foxconn employee Chen Long died on June 25th after a continuous 60-hour working week. Here’s the story:

Chen Long, a healthy 23 year old boy from a village in Hubei province, joined Foxconn in August 2010 to work on the assembly line at Hon Hai Group’s Foxconn plant in Shenzhen. Chen is a hardworking guy, and his mind is full of hopes. He is the only child in his family, and he needs to take care his grandparents, and at the same time, saving money to cure both of his parents’ sickness. If Chen has a low salary, he will still save up a portion of it for his family.

Working in Foxconn, Chen clearly knows the overtime policies every employee must obey, and he needs to work overtime every day. He is sick of his job, and he always feel that he is too tired to work overtime. Chen’s parents have heard about the suicides happening at Foxconn, they are worried and they tried to tell their son to quit the job. However, Chen said:
“Why would I want to die when I see my family and friends love me so much?”
Chen then told his parents that he needs to work an additional 2 hours everyday, working from 7am to 7pm during the weekdays. Moreover, Chen needs to work an additional 10 hours on Saturday, and has a day-off on Sunday. Foxconn has not assigned overtime working for Chen during April and May this year, so Chen has been working for more than 60 hours per week for 9 months since the day he joined Foxconn. Last year September, there’s one day Chen fainted on the street due to exhaustion. His parents were worried, and here’s what Chen said:
“Don’t worry, I’m just too tired. Everything will be fine after a rest.”



http://micgadget.com/13379/foxconn-w...-hours-a-week/
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      07-05-2011, 12:12 PM   #2
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i worked 60 hour weeks from last August to April.

paychecks made my dick super hard, but it can get pretty brutal leaving the house at 6:15 and getting home @ 7:30.

we "cut back" so i've only been working 54 hour weeks :/
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      07-05-2011, 12:15 PM   #3
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I wonder what the conditions on the line are. It said he worked on the assembly line but I'm wondering if it was dealing with electronic components or not. Some would require climate control, some items wouldn't.

Under normal environmental conditions, a 60-hour work week will not be responsible for someone's death unless there is an underlying condition.

Sounds like Foxconn was violating the labor law though. That sucks.
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      07-05-2011, 12:16 PM   #4
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i worked 60 hour weeks from last August to April.

paychecks made my dick super hard, but it can get pretty brutal leaving the house at 6:15 and getting home @ 7:30.

we "cut back" so i've only been working 54 hour weeks :/
I was going to say the same thing and quote my 90 hours for 2 years...but then i realized I should probably STFU because I guarantee his 60 hours a week on the assembly line is infinitely more difficult than really any 80 hour work in the usa...haha
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      07-05-2011, 12:17 PM   #5
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Dear Foxconn I had a 23 year old son who used to bring me $600 a month home but now he has died and he died because he overworked at your factory. Can you replace my son for me? Can you replace the monthly income he used to provide for our family?
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      07-05-2011, 12:20 PM   #6
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I was going to say the same thing and quote my 90 hours for 2 years...but then i realized I should probably STFU because I guarantee his 60 hours a week on the assembly line is infinitely more difficult than really any 80 hour work in the usa...haha
yeah, i sit in a cubicle with phone and internets......
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The other sad part is that for a lot of Chinese people out there they will work day and night to get what they want and live for which is money. Having lived in Taiwan for 20 years I know the difference between the Chinese and many in the west to where the Chinese live to work and many in the west work to live. They pretty much literally live for money and live to work for that money most of their lives and when they are not working hey are gambling for it whether it be playing Mah-Jahn,cards,casino,stock market or pretty much betting on anything that one can place a bet on.

Sad how the kid died
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      07-05-2011, 12:36 PM   #8
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that's totally FAR from reality, RIP to the dude but that's totally BS.

Nobody would die from such a thing.
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      07-05-2011, 12:39 PM   #9
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kid was asian.

he probably started a thread in OT asking for relationship advice.

someone told him to kill himself and he went ahead and did it.

**slow clap**
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Chen’s parents were deeply sad about their son’s death, and they have made the following requests to Foxconn: (machine translation, read original Chinese here)
- Provide a copy of the deceased’s employment contract, attendance cards, pay slips, pre employment physical forms.

- Provide reimbursement for victim’s parents’ medical (Chen’s parents fainted when they heard about the death of their son) and travel expenses.

- Cover the cost of living/eating for relatives. (calculating the lowest expenses, $5 yuan for breakfast, $10 yuan for lunch/dinner)

- Bear the funeral expenses of Chen’s death.

- Provide compensation for victims’ parents and grandparents.

And here’s what Foxconn answered:
- The copy of the deceased’s employment contract, attendance cards, pay slips, pre employment physical forms could only be given to the police/government.

- Since a precedent is not established for reimbursement on medical fees and travel expenses, reimbursement could not be provided.

-Only the cost of living/eating could be covered for the victim’s parents. Two standard rooms and $40 yuan will be provided daily for each person.

-May consider to bear the funeral expenses of the victim.

-The compensation for victim’s parents and grandparents will be provided from the victim’s social security tax (about 10,000 yuan).

Chen’s parents were not satisfied with Foxconn’s answers, and Chen’s mum was always trying to negotiate with Foxconn to get a better compensation. Chen’s mum cried a lot, and always faint when she tried to beg the representatives of Foxconn. Looking at the pathetic situation of Chen’s family, Foxconn finally offered a better compensation, 4 standard rooms and a daily compensation of 300 yuan for 17 members of Chen’s family (including relatives).
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      07-05-2011, 12:45 PM   #11
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I was working more then 12 hours a day, everyday for almost a year.

Its sad to hear about this but in reality it was his choice, its to bad we don't have american's willing to work themselves to death to support themselves rather then just mooch off of the government
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      07-05-2011, 12:49 PM   #12
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Sounds like they're trying to blame Foxconn for his death. Not like he died at the plant. He went out the night before, came home, woke up and died. Hmm
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its to bad we don't have american's willing to work themselves to death to support themselves rather then just mooch off of the government
those cheese dicks rely on "redistribution of wealth".

some asshole named Obama takes money out of my paycheck and gives it to the uneducated shitbirds sitting at home with their 5 kids "because they need it".

fuck that.........

"...hey there Litos - you make entirely too much money and live way too comfortable right now - what i'm gonna do is take some of it to give it to that guy sitting over there on his porch with his braids looking like a mess and his basketball shorts hanging around his knees. he could use a little help, so keep working long hard hours so that guy can be more comfortable..."


FUUUUUUUUU !!!!!!!!!
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      07-05-2011, 12:58 PM   #14
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^ Chill, i'm getting my braids re-done next week, didn't have to call me out like that.
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      07-05-2011, 01:03 PM   #15
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I think they "low ball" his hours. 60-hour-working-week is considered a "normal" work-week in China. He probably had week-after-week of continuous overtime.

I was working in Bantian, Shenzhen (in the same area as Foxconn) for another company last year and they do make people work like "dogs".

The only reason I could "avoid" the 60-hour-week was because I was considered an "expat".

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Having been in china and seeing how workers are treated there first hand, there is no absolutely reason for this to happen in any country.







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don't even try to compare the working condition and life style between the China and the US.

I have worked in many countries before (Japan, England, Singapore, Taiwan, US, and Canada) and there are no place like the working conditions in China.

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I was working more then 12 hours a day, everyday for almost a year.

Its sad to hear about this but in reality it was his choice, its to bad we don't have american's willing to work themselves to death to support themselves rather then just mooch off of the government
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      07-05-2011, 01:42 PM   #17
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I worked 60 + hour weeks from January through mid May this year. I think one week I was pushing 75 hours. And to sweeten the deal I didn't even get overtime, so I got the same pay as if I worked 40 hours.
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      07-05-2011, 01:50 PM   #18
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don't even try to compare the working condition and life style between the China and the US.

I have worked in many countries before (Japan, England, Singapore, Taiwan, US, and Canada) and there are no place like the working conditions in China.

Yes exactly.

They also breathe toxic fumes/dust all day with no protection.
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      07-05-2011, 01:53 PM   #19
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This is a really sad story.

IMHO, it's only a matter of time before China goes through the same labor issues that the United States did at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.
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      07-05-2011, 02:27 PM   #20
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Unfortunatley we will never see an autopsy report which would show the true cause.
The conditions in the factory were the most likley the biggest culprit, If working 60,70,80 hours a week caused his death the human race would have been extinct a long time ago.
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      07-05-2011, 02:38 PM   #21
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this reminds me...

Child labor, coming to a united state near you soon. someone's gotta pay the bills.

dont worry, america will soon be the same way.
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I dunno.....

Do his parents work?
Vaso-vagal syncope does not require a medical exam
I bet theres a whole lot more to this death than whats been written
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