C63 vs M3

spartan///m3 · 03-27-2013, 12:45 PM

Raced a buddy's 09 c63 amg with performance package and did not lose lol. We did it three times from a second gear roll and we were completely even. My car is a bone stock e92 m3 6mt. M powerrrrrrrr

krnnerdboy · 03-27-2013, 12:51 PM

Wow that's really impressive!

M3Denver · 03-27-2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spartan///m3

Raced a buddy's 09 c63 amg with performance package and did not lose lol. We did it three times from a second gear roll and we were completely even. My car is a bone stock e92 m3 6mt. M powerrrrrrrr

I'm not sure that's even believable when looking at the base numbers

spartan///m3 · 03-27-2013, 01:20 PM

Maybe I got an odd ball m3? I must say Iam an amazing driver aswell lol

BMoney · 03-27-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by spartan///m3

Raced a buddy's 09 c63 amg with performance package and did not lose lol. We did it three times from a second gear roll and we were completely even. My car is a bone stock e92 m3 6mt. M powerrrrrrrr

09 PP C63's don't have the bump in HP like the 2010+ have. I could see it being a close race. A 12+ plus with PP/Dev pack would be a different story. I've seen a few bone stock ones run 11.9 1/4 mile.

Denk · 03-27-2013, 04:58 PM

I hope you don't lose a friendship over this. That's a hard pill to swallow...for your friend.

spartan///m3 · 03-27-2013, 05:50 PM

Hahaha he's pissed but were still friends

gthal · 03-27-2013, 06:14 PM

He doesn't know how to drive

The '09 with the P31 option had less power... a 2012+ would be very different. Having said that, even the base '09 C63 should pull a bit on a stock M3 if the driver knows what they are doing. They are not way faster but they are faster even without the bump to 481 HP. His car must be sick.

Fastlaps has a 2010 M3 Comp pack at 24.6s to 150mph versus 22.8s for a 2009 C63. Up to 100mph they are closer.

NYBulldog · 03-27-2013, 06:53 PM

Doesn't sound right. C63 should be kicking a$5. I'm sure it feels great though. I wonder what's wrong with his car... or him

spartan///m3 · 03-27-2013, 09:27 PM

Anybody can drive that Benz with that transmission. And I have been in the car with him while he is driving so I know he can drive it properly. So who knowzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

mdosu · 03-27-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gthal

He doesn't know how to drive

The '09 with the P31 option had less power... a 2012+ would be very different. Having said that, even the base '09 C63 should pull a bit on a stock M3 if the driver knows what they are doing. They are not way faster but they are faster even without the bump to 481 HP. His car must be sick.

Fastlaps has a 2010 M3 Comp pack at 24.6s to 150mph versus 22.8s for a 2009 C63. Up to 100mph they are closer.

I Thought all p31s had the same output?

stylinexpat · 03-28-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gthal

He doesn't know how to drive

The '09 with the P31 option had less power... a 2012+ would be very different. Having said that, even the base '09 C63 should pull a bit on a stock M3 if the driver knows what they are doing. They are not way faster but they are faster even without the bump to 481 HP. His car must be sick.

Fastlaps has a 2010 M3 Comp pack at 24.6s to 150mph versus 22.8s for a 2009 C63. Up to 100mph they are closer.

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Hahaha he's pissed but were still friends

I am thinking he is from

CSanto · 03-28-2013, 08:06 AM

I'd like to see what happens vs the 507 edition.

BMoney · 03-28-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

I Thought all p31s had the same output?

09's had the P30 option instead of P31. No HP increase.

mdosu · 03-28-2013, 11:20 AM

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09's had the P30 option instead of P31. No HP increase.

I know that P30 did not come with the power bump, P30 was the LSD option. But I always thought when owners say "PP" it indicates the P31 option. Maybe OP meant that C63 only had the P30? If that's the case, then sure, that result sounds about right, depending on reaction times, the M3 and non-P31 C63 is about neck and neck in a drag race.

BMoney · 03-28-2013, 04:29 PM

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I know that P30 did not come with the power bump, P30 was the LSD option. But I always thought when owners say "PP" it indicates the P31 option. Maybe OP meant that C63 only had the P30? If that's the case, then sure, that result sounds about right, depending on reaction times, the M3 and non-P31 C63 is about neck and neck in a drag race.

In the US at least P31 is called Development pack. I think in other countries after the 2009 model PP(P30) was changed to PP+(P31). I'm not sure what the MB marketing folks were smoking.

mdosu · 03-28-2013, 04:35 PM

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In the US at least P31 is called Development pack. I think in other countries after the 2009 model PP(P30) was changed to PP+(P31). I'm not sure what the MB marketing folks were smoking.

got it. Confused about performance package vs development package. I recall now. P31 was the development package +31 hp...hps that the chassis wasn't lacking..

MTrezzz · 03-29-2013, 04:48 AM

I raced a 2010 C63 Sedan (no power pack) with my 2013 Lime rock, it was a very close race, but the C63 had the lead, by a very small gap. I've owned a C63 Coupe before Sandy, and i can tell from experience that the M3 will lose badly ahah
I still like the M3 better tho, my navi in the C63 sucked and the sound system wasn't as good. but i loved that pannnno roof it made it. plus i had to go get new tire's every time.

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