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This is actually a more accurate way of measuring engine power to ground. It takes out all the variables of driver skill at the launch. Which can vary widely.
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I was on the track at Calabogie with an RS4 in the rain. I was much faster than him....in my E36. No, this is not a joke.
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Yeah right! Please, get real. The RS4 is almost as quick as the new e92 M3 on the straights and the e46 M3 CSL gets smoked by the RS4 in straightline and in a track course and you're telling me that you beat the 420hp RS4 with your 306hp 645. I guess your 645 is faster than the e46 M3 as well. You definitely smoked something, but it wasn't the RS4. Here are some videos with the RS4 vs e46 M3, smoke this.
T-Bone, here are some videos of e92 M3 vs RS4, i'm sure you've seen all of this and it's not in english. But you can tell the e92 M3 wins. And here's the M5board video of the RS4 vs e92 M3. RS4 owner was quite impress. Last edited by gbb357; 04-12-2008 at 11:13 PM.. |
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I'll take that challenge. Fly your car here and we'll run. Pick any track in North America.
Sadly there are a lot of Americans that drive with their heads up their asses. However, I've been all over the world, and Americans aren't the worst drivers, on average.
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I just watched the Top Gear episodes in post #2. I think that answers the initial question quite nicely. Same driver, same track, same conditions. M3 is fastest.
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RS4 drivers are always good sportsmen because they lose so often Seriously, I have never seen the RS4 beat any car in the M5board videos, they are constant back markers. RS4 victories are pretty rare in a straight line or with some turns.
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You were likely a better driver or the guy was hesitant to push his new $80k car in the rain. I know I would be. Unless your E36 is IP race car, I doubt you would have a chance otherwise.
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My point is: these questions where people are concerned with what car if faster than another only matter if you're capable of extracting the same performance out of a particular car. Few people probably are. Many times the limiting factor in real world performance is the driver.
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He does'nt even have the 650i with 360hp, he has the 645i with 306hp. Therefore he is "gay" to lie about beating a RS4 with his 645.
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It must have been the driver - I could just about keep up with a stage i e36 M3 in my S4 against a friend that is an equal driver around a track. The S4 also smoked him in a stright line , about 5-6 car legths to 100 mph. even so its fun to smoke faster cars on the track isnt it?
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lol but rs4 beats m5 on ring / and m3
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7:58 --- 156.66 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) http://www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.ph...16841&t=16841\
7:59 --- 154.82 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004) 7:59* -- 154.82 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.) 7:59* -- 154.82 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R (*free of the speed limiter standard on UK versions, so it was discounted) http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/ 7:59.41 154.69 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C "prototype" (2004), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf 8:01.72 153.98 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") 8:01.84 153.98 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder, 520 PS/1760 kg, http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...rtikel_seite=1 8:02 --- 153.86 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04) 8:03 --- 153.54 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Pirelli P Zero Corsa (sport auto 10/05) 8:03 --- 153.54 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99) 8:03.86 153.52 km/h -- Honda NSX 8:04 --- 153.22 km/h -- Audi R8, 420 PS/1595 kg (sport auto 07/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=133046 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCTb6...e=user&search= 8:04 --- 153.22 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00) 8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- BMW M3, 420 PS/1608 kg (sport auto 12/07) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=145617 8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1745 kg (sport auto 03/08) http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?vie...D=2&tID=152624 8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02) 8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard”, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04) 8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05), 8:05 --- 152.91 km/h -- Ruf CTR http://www.lad.lv/~martini/porsche/V...rburgring1.wmv 8:06 --- 152.59 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02) 8:06.01 152.59 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") 8:06.2 - 152.59 km/h -- Caterham Superlight R http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/228511/ 8:07 --- 152.28 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/98) 8:07.76 152.04 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg, Prinz Luitpold von Bayern (AutoBild 02/06) 8:08.62 151.77 km/h -- HGP Golf R32 Turbo Stufe 3, 495 PS/1660 kg, http://www.autobild.de/test/neuwagen...tikel_id=14071 8:08.73 151.88 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo 8:09 --- 151.66 km/h – Audi RS4, 420 PS/1728 kg (sport auto 06/06) 8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- BMW M6, 507 PS/1761 kg (sport auto 12/05) 8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02) 8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99) 8:09 --- 151.66 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97) 8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear 02/05) 8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97) 8:10 --- 151.35 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/01) 8:10.75 151.27 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996), www.subaru.com.hk/pdf/SNW0404.pdf 8:11 --- 151,27 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14) 8:11* -- 151,27 km/h -- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05) 8:11.1 - 151,274 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Sypder E-gear (AutoBild sportscars 11/07) 8:12 --- 150.73 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02) 8:12 --- 150.73 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97) 8:12 --- 150.73 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/97) 8:12.62 - 150.61 km/h -- Honda CBR 1000 RR Fireblade, 172 PS/205 kg, Helmmut Dähne, previous record holder http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Theme...ng_422642.html 8:12.8 - 150.43 km/h – Porsche 997 Turbo convertible (AutoBild sportscars11/08) 8:13 --- 150.43 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Bridgestone Potenza RE 50 (sport auto 10/05) 8:13 --- 150.43 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/184 |
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Pro racing driver on R compounds...even Audi doesn't recognize the 7:58 time.
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I would expect to hear that BMW and others have similar occasions when their PRO race driver has lapped much quicker than Horst, he's a decent driver but he's not a pro of the caliber Frank Stippler. If Audi had of used this 7:58 time as it's official time then they would has went down in my estimations. |
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No doubt but Audi's official time (or that of Sportauto's) is 8:09....Audi has not made claims for sub-8 minutes.
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