Macht Schnell releases their Stage 2 Intake Charge Kit!

chris s · 08-15-2010, 04:26 PM

Lets see this Dyno!!! Come onnnnnnn

Simrokkzz · 08-16-2010, 05:30 AM

Is this intake really worth the money? ok its a lot cheaper than one of these:

http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/02/22/te...intake-system/

http://www.rpm-arabia.com/store/grup...-intake-bmw-m3

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...ID=50-11662-BV

--> for me the Tecnocraft looks perfect, are there any dynos available??
Was it reviewed somewhere?

Looking forward to your repplies.

Leshik · 08-16-2010, 06:58 AM

this is a great kit but i dont think there be a really good gain on this just the sound maybe. id rather go with afe stage 2 kit.

MNm3 · 08-16-2010, 04:55 PM

I like what I hear. Dynos please! If the stuff everyone is saying about this is true, I'll be all over this like a fat kid on cupcakes.

Leonardo629 · 08-16-2010, 06:08 PM

As long as this kit provides gains similar to Dinan's kit...the kit will sell like hotcakes...

kitw · 08-16-2010, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leshik

this is a great kit but i dont think there be a really good gain on this just the sound maybe. id rather go with afe stage 2 kit.

Why do you think the AFE will make more gains? It uses a heat shield that doesn't adequately seal.

Leonardo629 · 08-16-2010, 09:43 PM

AFE intake probably heat soaks like a mother.....and the aluminum heat shield just makes everything el cheapo..

Dave07997S · 08-16-2010, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo629

AFE intake probably heat soaks like a mother.....and the aluminum heat shield just makes everything el cheapo..

From AFEs website...

quality_sound · 08-16-2010, 10:19 PM

If you're worried about heat there are a number of things you could line the inside of the airbox with.

1cleanm6 · 08-16-2010, 10:49 PM

dyno plz....

then ill order

phrogbubbaE92 · 08-16-2010, 11:57 PM

working on a dyno.. EAS shipped me the kit without the filter adapter tube... nothing is more annoying than taking apart something expecting to have a new part and then putting the stock part back on because there are parts missing..

Simrokkzz · 08-17-2010, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leshik

this is a great kit but i dont think there be a really good gain on this just the sound maybe. id rather go with afe stage 2 kit.

Which one is great?

I mentioned 3 new kits above your post.....

chris s · 08-17-2010, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Install video and dyno will be up on Monday

We did a back to back dyno run in 100+ temps here in Chicago.

Where is the dyno??????

Nate@IND · 08-17-2010, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris s

Where is the dyno??????

waiting for the dnyo shop to send it

Trier Germany · 08-18-2010, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quality_sound

If you're worried about heat there are a number of things you could line the inside of the airbox with.

Are you serious?

Trier Germany · 08-18-2010, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate@IND

waiting for the dnyo shop to send it

Still waiting

Nate@IND · 08-18-2010, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trier Germany

Still waiting

Still waiting for the shop to send it. They even had a dyno run by DOS

AMS is where we wanted to do the runs but they are booked for one month.

Here are a few photos from the day-

quality_sound · 08-18-2010, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trier Germany

Are you serious?

Whoops, that was supposed to be outside, not inside.

The point still stands, however.

MsM3 · 08-18-2010, 02:47 PM

kitw · 08-18-2010, 05:22 PM

What I've found is that sitting at a light, the IATs go through the roof with an open intake in the engine bay. This causes timing to be retarded. When you start moving, IAT usually comes down. If you immediately go WOT with larger IATs, you'll get less power until the IATs come down and the ECU stops applying the correction.

I have logged IAT in my car with the stock intake and anything over 20 mph, I see ambient as the IAT. I haven't seen data with my own car that corresponds to AFE's testing, especially not an improvement, since the car is already drawing in ambient temp air. I wave the brown flag on the AFE numbers, since obviously they are not going to be cooler than ambient. There simply isn't anywhere the stock box can get non ambient temp air once you are moving even slightly.

The AFE on my e46 M3 drew in hotter air than ambient until 40 mph. :/

Leonardo629 · 08-20-2010, 05:17 PM

where's the dyno boys....you guys didn't find gains or what?

1cleanm6 · 08-20-2010, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo629

where's the dyno boys....you guys didn't find gains or what?

lol

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