Exposed Mufflers..why?...

!Xoible · 04-24-2008, 12:35 PM

okay i like to believe you are smarter than exhaust designers. if u dont think so please do not correct me

back to topic, if u guys want mufflers to be hidden go buy a mercedes E350

ersin · 04-24-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwirobbie

Didn't they promote the guy a year or so back

Yes. Some call it the "Peter Principle".

m3larson · 04-24-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Mantis

lol i have no idea why u guys are bothered. i dont mind half the fucking engine hanging out of the hood.... it looks fucking perfect to me... i still jack off to my car

Fucking Funny

GregW / Oregon · 04-24-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwirobbie

Didn't they promote the guy a year or so back

Actually, it was 2004 when he was "promoted" to the newly created post of Director of BMW Group Design, an executive position distanced from the design floor. He has no direct styling reponsibility for BMW future models. He seems to have trained Adrian Van Hooydonk, the current design director, pretty well.

kbk_75 · 04-24-2008, 03:13 PM

I'm not bothered much by the sight of my muffler. I guess it would have been nicer if it was concealed, but it doesn't bother me.

ersin · 04-24-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Actually, it was 2004 when he was "promoted" to the newly created post of Director of BMW Group Design, an executive position distanced from the design floor. He has no direct styling reponsibility for BMW future models. He seems to have trained Adrian Van Hooydonk, the current design director, pretty well.

Yes, his legacy lives on.

jm1234 · 04-24-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Mantis

lol i have no idea why u guys are bothered. i dont mind half the fucking engine hanging out of the hood.... it looks fucking perfect to me... i still jack off to my car

That's going to help resale someday...

lucid · 04-24-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GT3 Tim

Hell, without him we never would of had cars with the "Bangle Butt". lol

You mean the inverted bath tub stuck at the rear of the 7-series? Yeah, that's him!

And, when speaking to the media, he claims, by cooking up shit like that, he was single-handedly "revolutionized" car design at a global scale. Modest fellow, this guy is.

GregW / Oregon · 04-24-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lucid

You mean the inverted bath tub stuck at the rear of the 7-series? Yeah, that's him!

That was actually Hooydonk's first design with BMW.

lucid · 04-24-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

That was actually Hooydonk's first design with BMW.

How is that possible? I am referring to the 7-series platform that was released in 2002. Wasn't Bangle chief designer during the development of that model?

GregW / Oregon · 04-24-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lucid

How is that possible? I am referring to the 7-series platform that was released in 2002. Wasn't Bangle chief designer during the development of that model?

Bangle was the design director, but it was Van Hooydonk's design:

"Not many people have produced a car design that shook the world, but Dutchman Adrian Van Hooydonk did with his 2001 7 Series. At the time, he was director of BMW's California car studio and product design consultancy, Designworks."

http://www.motortrend.com/features/c...n_hooydonk_bmw

lucid · 04-24-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Bangle was the design director, but it was Van Hooydonk's design:

"Not many people have produced a car design that shook the world, but Dutchman Adrian Van Hooydonk did with his 2001 7 Series. At the time, he was director of BMW's California car studio and product design consultancy, Designworks."

http://www.motortrend.com/features/c...n_hooydonk_bmw

Well, I don't know, if he was chief designer, he had a lot to do with it. It's not as if the chief designer sees the designs a few weeks before release and simply signs off on them. The chief designer selects the designer, and that choice itself is highly consequential. Then, there are all sorts of interactions and associated infuences. That magnititude of a project is not executed without serious input and direction from the chief designer.

nusevad · 04-24-2008, 09:09 PM

The exposed muffler is growing on me...the gritty rawness of it...

GregW / Oregon · 04-24-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lucid

Well, I don't know, if he was chief designer, he had a lot to do with it. It's not as if the chief designer sees the designs a few weeks before release and simply signs off on them. The chief designer selects the designer, and that choice itself is highly consequential. Then, there are all sorts of interactions and associated infuences. That magnititude of a project is not executed without serious input and direction from the chief designer.

Agree, Bangle had a big part. Ultimately, though, "Van Hooydonk butt" was just too hard for most people to say!

lucid · 04-24-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Ultimately, though, "Van Hooydonk butt" was just too hard for most people to say!

I'll practice that in my free time...

nusevad · 04-24-2008, 09:41 PM

you guys know that the "bangle or Van Hooydonk" Butt appeared first on Hyundais.

lucid · 04-24-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

you guys know that the "bangle or Van Hooydonk" Butt appeared first on Hyundais.

That must be the beginnings of the global dimension Bangle has been referencing then!

Johndoe · 04-24-2008, 09:49 PM

the crappy muffler has to go - -cannot have a "MIDAS" ad sticking out of a $70K+ car...will be painting it flat black.

nusevad · 04-24-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lucid

That must be the beginnings of the global dimension Bangle has been referencing then!

lol

If you google or cardomain search 1999 Hyundai Sonata you can see, I believe other Hyundais had it too before it appeared on the 7 series and Maybach/S classes...

sayemthree · 04-24-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Agree, Bangle had a big part. Ultimately, though, "Van Hooydonk butt" was just too hard for most people to say!

right and Bangled sounds so much like bungled that they have become synonmous.

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