Scratched tint!?

southlight · 06-18-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bikerjoy

I started this thread http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=1#post5349918 a few weeks ago, plenty of information there.

Threads are merged now.

Best regards,
south

signes · 06-18-2009, 11:54 AM

Thanks South, seems like I didn't search well enough... I will try and do the tint protector as well. FWIW, I have 3M 30% on my car. Doesn't seem like film thickness makes any difference, though.

TwistaStick · 06-19-2009, 12:27 PM

2009 e92 with Formula One Pinnacle. I have scratches on both windows and hardly ever roll down the windows.

TwistaStick · 06-19-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by badfish

This afternoon I decided to document the moleskin installation on my E92 M3. The instructions that came with the kit were pretty good. This is what you get...

I started off with my GF taking pictures of me removing the door panel. After I removed the doorpanel, I removed the strip. It wasn't easy because of this rubber seal that runs along the top side of the door. You kinda have to figure this part out. Basically, the rubber part on the side pops out and you lift on that side of strip to get it out of the door. The outer strip will have to come up part of the way to make room for this strip to come out. Here's a picture...

The instructions indicate that I would find a hard plastic piece on the strip. You're supposed to sand it down and then stick the moleskin on it. Well, guess what? There is no hard plastic part, it's all soft felt lined and nowhere to stick the moleskin. So all of this was a waste of time. The moleskin kit I did order specifically for an E92. Turns out at least that my 2008 M3 doesn't need it. Here's a picture of the felt lined strip...

I'm still not convinced that my tint is being scratched but I do know that it's leaving what looks like scratch marks on the tint but I can wipe them off. It's leaving some kind of a residue. Anyhow, hope that helps. Anyone in SoCal area need a moleskin kit for an E92???

So the e92 already has a felt strip but it is still streaking or scratching window tint? Did you notice a significant difference between the MoleSkin felt and the OEM felt? Just wondering if replacing the felt may provide better results.

Ben335 · 06-19-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistaStick

So the e92 already has a felt strip but it is still streaking or scratching window tint? Did you notice a significant difference between the MoleSkin felt and the OEM felt? Just wondering if replacing the felt may provide better results.

There is a slight difference. The OEM felt is lighter and thinner than the moleskin stuff.

badfish · 06-19-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistaStick

So the e92 already has a felt strip but it is still streaking or scratching window tint? Did you notice a significant difference between the MoleSkin felt and the OEM felt? Just wondering if replacing the felt may provide better results.

They both felt more than soft enough to not scratch. The marks I am getting are streaks and not scratches. I hardly ever roll down my windows but when I do they appear from time to time. Not every time.

signes · 06-30-2009, 11:38 PM

Tried getting my dealer to warranty replacement of the seals but no dice - said the dirt that got in the seals causing the scratches was my fault for driving in "dirty areas" with the windows down. Such BS...

Anybody know how to try and take this up with BMWNA? I know it has no chance but will call. I have the number, just wondering if anybody has had success getting them to look in to part flaws/problems like this. Probably not but... anybody?

Bikerjoy · 07-01-2009, 08:48 AM

Well you could try to play the "But the other kids get to...." card. My dealer not only installed the mole skin and had the tint replaced free of charge, they offered to reimburse me for the mole skin (29 dollars).

I would call BMWNA and talk to then, try to make the argument that it is a production flaw and that many owners are in the same boat as you, reference this thread if necessary.

signes · 07-01-2009, 10:26 AM

Thanks Bikerboy. Good to hear that others have gotten this reimbursed. May try it again at another dealer.

RJD M3 · 07-11-2009, 06:10 AM

For those of you still wondering if the tintprotector works for the e90, it does! I had my tint done the day I got the car (johnson, 20%) read to my horror about scratches so I ordered the tintprotector kit. It arrived two days later, installed it with the very good enclosed instructions and I have had NO scratches at all in all four windows. Taking off the door panels is the way to go, and its pretty easy just takes a little time to make sure that you do it right, and making sure that the rubber gaskets around the connecting brackets all make it back on prior to reinstallation.

If you have any questions, I would be more than happy to answer-

SQ5 · 07-21-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RJD M3

For those of you still wondering if the tintprotector works for the e90, it does! I had my tint done the day I got the car (johnson, 20%) read to my horror about scratches so I ordered the tintprotector kit. It arrived two days later, installed it with the very good enclosed instructions and I have had NO scratches at all in all four windows. Taking off the door panels is the way to go, and its pretty easy just takes a little time to make sure that you do it right, and making sure that the rubber gaskets around the connecting brackets all make it back on prior to reinstallation.

If you have any questions, I would be more than happy to answer-

Nawaaz · 07-21-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RJD M3

For those of you still wondering if the tintprotector works for the e90, it does! I had my tint done the day I got the car (johnson, 20%) read to my horror about scratches so I ordered the tintprotector kit. It arrived two days later, installed it with the very good enclosed instructions and I have had NO scratches at all in all four windows. Taking off the door panels is the way to go, and its pretty easy just takes a little time to make sure that you do it right, and making sure that the rubber gaskets around the connecting brackets all make it back on prior to reinstallation.

If you have any questions, I would be more than happy to answer-

Thanks man. I'll be ordering the tint protector pretty soon also.

RickyBobby · 07-21-2009, 05:26 PM

Ugh I'm having thus issue too on my 09 sedan. My tint shop has the moleskin that he can install for me, but hasn't seen the issue yet on any BMWs. I'll have to take a closer look to see if I want the tint redone or not..

STALKER · 08-12-2009, 03:29 PM

Any updates?

Ben335 · 08-12-2009, 03:31 PM

I have had the moleskin for about 2 months now and not one scratch. It does work.

SQ5 · 08-26-2009, 03:29 PM

Here is the link to Tint Protector.

Tint Protector Anti-Scratch Window Tint Kits made with moleskin felt.

Synter · 10-20-2009, 09:18 PM

I took my 92 M3 in for my 1200 mile service a couple of days ago and I'm the windows down music up type of guy. So as soon and as I got home and rolled my windows I noticed this residue that a few people have mentioned. Being a mechanic for 10 plus years i figured that they just overgreased the window guides. Anybody else see this to be a feasible reason for the residue on the coupe windows? I do not have window tint yet but am looking to do so very soon. I just wonder if anybody else thinks the residue could be from regular maint of our vehicles?

I just took a quick peek at my window seals with the window rolled down and have found that both of the inside seals are very soft and of felt material. And i didnt have to take the door panel off to do so, i just stuck my pinkie finger down in there and felt both seals are felt, much softer than the outside seal. I believe that the residue, white lithium grease, or what ever product BMW uses is saturating this felt strip thus causing the residue streaks. It only left a streak in one spot where I could assume a window guide would be and after about five roll ups the residue didnt show up again. I will call BMW tommorow and see if they grease the windows as part of the reg maint so we can identify this mysterious "residue".

Justin

mastek · 10-21-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben335

I have had the moleskin for about 2 months now and not one scratch. It does work.

Good news on the scratches - but do you still get the infamous 'streaking' ??

Jlnike · 10-21-2009, 05:53 PM

anyone that can help me install moleskin in the tri state ny area...maybe we can do both our cars together?

mach330 · 10-21-2009, 07:14 PM

i have a scratch on the driver side back window. are these covered by the tint installer? i just started noticing it. i'm not sure where it came from. it's towards the bottom.

RickyBobby · 10-21-2009, 08:46 PM

I just wanted to report that I've had my moleskin on now for a couple of months. It works! No scratches!

Ben335 · 10-21-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mastek

Good news on the scratches - but do you still get the infamous 'streaking' ??

I have no streaking also.

06-18-2009, 11:54 AM	#68
signes Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,318 Posts Drives: 991 GT3 RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Living at (almost...) 9k iTrader: (5)	Thanks South, seems like I didn't search well enough... I will try and do the tint protector as well. FWIW, I have 3M 30% on my car. Doesn't seem like film thickness makes any difference, though.
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TwistaStick Second Lieutenant 36 Rep 296 Posts Drives: 2009 AW BMW E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas iTrader: (0)	2009 e92 with Formula One Pinnacle. I have scratches on both windows and hardly ever roll down the windows.
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signes Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,318 Posts Drives: 991 GT3 RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Living at (almost...) 9k iTrader: (5)	Tried getting my dealer to warranty replacement of the seals but no dice - said the dirt that got in the seals causing the scratches was my fault for driving in "dirty areas" with the windows down. Such BS... Anybody know how to try and take this up with BMWNA? I know it has no chance but will call. I have the number, just wondering if anybody has had success getting them to look in to part flaws/problems like this. Probably not but... anybody?
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07-01-2009, 08:48 AM	#74
Bikerjoy Private 11 Rep 95 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E90 M3 [0.00]	Well you could try to play the "But the other kids get to...." card. My dealer not only installed the mole skin and had the tint replaced free of charge, they offered to reimburse me for the mole skin (29 dollars). I would call BMWNA and talk to then, try to make the argument that it is a production flaw and that many owners are in the same boat as you, reference this thread if necessary. __________________ 2008 M3, Jerez Black, Premium Package, Technology Package, Moon Roof, Heated Seats, iPod adapter, SAT radio, Enhanced Premium Sound.
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signes Brigadier General 199 Rep 4,318 Posts Drives: 991 GT3 RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Living at (almost...) 9k iTrader: (5)	Thanks Bikerboy. Good to hear that others have gotten this reimbursed. May try it again at another dealer.
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07-11-2009, 06:10 AM	#76
RJD M3 Private First Class 18 Rep 192 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dover, DE iTrader: (2)	For those of you still wondering if the tintprotector works for the e90, it does! I had my tint done the day I got the car (johnson, 20%) read to my horror about scratches so I ordered the tintprotector kit. It arrived two days later, installed it with the very good enclosed instructions and I have had NO scratches at all in all four windows. Taking off the door panels is the way to go, and its pretty easy just takes a little time to make sure that you do it right, and making sure that the rubber gaskets around the connecting brackets all make it back on prior to reinstallation. If you have any questions, I would be more than happy to answer- __________________ 2009 Jet Black E90 ///M3/Black Leather/Carbon Leather/M-DCT/Tech/Premium/Premium Sound/ Heated Fronts/Moon/19's/Eisenmann Race w/ Connecting Pipes/Matte Grills/Painted Reflectors/Euro LCI Tails/20% Tint C-17A Globemaster III
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RickyBobby Captain 107 Rep 697 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (3)	Ugh I'm having thus issue too on my 09 sedan. My tint shop has the moleskin that he can install for me, but hasn't seen the issue yet on any BMWs. I'll have to take a closer look to see if I want the tint redone or not..
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Ben335 Captain 46 Rep 891 Posts Drives: 09 M3 Finally here Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Virginia iTrader: (2)	I have had the moleskin for about 2 months now and not one scratch. It does work. __________________ 09 SG E90, Black on Carbon Leather, Tech, Premium, Cold, iPod, Premium Sound, 19s, OEM Alarm, PDC, Moonroof, Sirius Eisenmann Sport / Eibach Springs / 35% F1 Pinnacle Tint / Macht Schnell Air Filter / LUX Angel Eyes / Black Grill / AA Pulley / Powerchip Stage II Tune / Fabspeed X-Pipe & HFC / RAC Monolites RG63
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08-26-2009, 03:29 PM	#82
SQ5 Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 286 Posts Drives: Audi R8 V10 Gen 2, Tesla Plaid Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: GA and MI iTrader: (2)	Here is the link to Tint Protector. Tint Protector Anti-Scratch Window Tint Kits made with moleskin felt.
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10-20-2009, 09:18 PM	#83
Synter Private First Class 9 Rep 164 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Destin, Flordia iTrader: (0)	I took my 92 M3 in for my 1200 mile service a couple of days ago and I'm the windows down music up type of guy. So as soon and as I got home and rolled my windows I noticed this residue that a few people have mentioned. Being a mechanic for 10 plus years i figured that they just overgreased the window guides. Anybody else see this to be a feasible reason for the residue on the coupe windows? I do not have window tint yet but am looking to do so very soon. I just wonder if anybody else thinks the residue could be from regular maint of our vehicles? I just took a quick peek at my window seals with the window rolled down and have found that both of the inside seals are very soft and of felt material. And i didnt have to take the door panel off to do so, i just stuck my pinkie finger down in there and felt both seals are felt, much softer than the outside seal. I believe that the residue, white lithium grease, or what ever product BMW uses is saturating this felt strip thus causing the residue streaks. It only left a streak in one spot where I could assume a window guide would be and after about five roll ups the residue didnt show up again. I will call BMW tommorow and see if they grease the windows as part of the reg maint so we can identify this mysterious "residue". Justin __________________ 2008 E92 M3 Melbourne Red, 20" Iconz 880Z, Gintani race exhaust, HID angel eyes, 6k Interior light kit, Vorsteiner VRS lip Car for sale thread http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=577829
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Jlnike First Lieutenant 33 Rep 396 Posts Drives: 08 e90 m3 07 e90 328xi Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New York iTrader: (1)	anyone that can help me install moleskin in the tri state ny area...maybe we can do both our cars together?
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mach330 You don't know JACK!!! 41 Rep 796 Posts Drives: 2011 X5 35i Join Date: May 2005 Location: The OC iTrader: (3)	i have a scratch on the driver side back window. are these covered by the tint installer? i just started noticing it. i'm not sure where it came from. it's towards the bottom. __________________ Rated /// M
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RickyBobby Captain 107 Rep 697 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (3)	I just wanted to report that I've had my moleskin on now for a couple of months. It works! No scratches!
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