**Active Autowerke E9X M3 Supercharger Kit (Teaser) I **

J08M3 · 12-23-2008, 03:24 PM

Is this going to be the kind of kit an average "backyard mechanic" can bolt on themselves? Or is a professional installation going to be needed?

PunjabiM3 · 12-23-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by youyou

Just out of curiosity how much does a thing like this go for?
I'm not asking for exact pricing but just a rough idea... Maybe basing yourselves on previous kits...
I'm asking because i'm completely clueless in regards to SC kits and i want to know if we're looking at spending around 2-3 thousand $ or more like 10,000$ +
Any insight would be appreciated...

Haha you honestly don't have any idea on pricing. I would say the AA stage 1 kit will likely be around 10k with the stage 2 kit even more. $2-3k may get you a FI kit for a 4 banger Japanese car...

2008AWM3 · 12-23-2008, 03:28 PM

#'s today please!

0-60Motorsports · 12-23-2008, 03:28 PM

Good work AA. This will e good for the E90 M3 i plan on picking up next year

darkphantom · 12-23-2008, 03:47 PM

good work.

youyou · 12-23-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PunjabiM3

Haha you honestly don't have any idea on pricing. I would say the AA stage 1 kit will likely be around 10k with the stage 2 kit even more. $2-3k may get you a FI kit for a 4 banger Japanese car...

Damn!!
I think i'll stick to my 414 ponies if it's anywhere near 10k.
No disrespect to whoever spends that kind of dough...
Thanks for the info though

Daas87 · 12-23-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

Please show my a dyno of an E46 that makes 500whp? Must be amazing really!!

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...s/E46_M3/11037

600ish to the wheels on pump gas

Jersey Girl · 12-23-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

Well since your waiting til' after the Holidays I will do the same

Totally unfair

!

I really have to know what kind of hp#s I should be day-dreaming about, while I pretend to be listening to my family discussions around the Holiday table

Omar@ActiveAutowerke · 12-23-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Girl

Totally unfair

!

I really have to know what kind of hp#s I should be day-dreaming about, while I pretend to be listening to my family discussions around the Holiday table

Maybe you should be listening

aajami · 12-23-2008, 04:25 PM

That sounds really mean. Any idea why the iDrive was constantly bitching in that first video, though?

VelocityM3 · 12-23-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

That sounds really mean. Any idea why the iDrive was constantly bitching in that first video, though?

I think that was the damn seatbelt indicator!!!

Driver72 · 12-23-2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

Speculative or any proof at all? I'm sure BMW realized folks would tune the engine for a lot of power and almost certainly even considered this during design.

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Originally Posted by Sticky

Not speculative at all, if you take a look a look at the concerns of individuals on e90post the block strength in a main concern.

Responding with speculation based on speculated "concerns" and then claiming that is the "proof" of the truth!
The best kind of uninformed ignorance their is. Good work.

As for hp claims, has AA made any yet? I would find it highly doubtful the s/c addition will make the M3 600 hp. As a pure guess I'm saying the s/c will add 6-7 psi and bring the hp up from 414 to around 515-525. **edit: I see AA has dynoed the car. Give up the details AA, nothing like possible Christmas pre-orders huh? Numbers please!**
That would take quite a bit of boost to make 600 hp. AA was the compression ratio lowered quite a bit for the s/c addition?

Any 1/4 mile testing yet? Times?

Dare · 12-23-2008, 05:30 PM

Thats a beast, I love the sound!

Adamk24 · 12-23-2008, 06:04 PM

OH. MY. GOD. That sounds EPIC. Do want. Cant afford.

tallycoolies · 12-23-2008, 06:53 PM

Wow........

Sticky · 12-23-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver72

Responding with speculation based on speculated "concerns" and then claiming that is the "proof" of the truth!
The best kind of uninformed ignorance their is. Good work.

As for hp claims, has AA made any yet? I would find it highly doubtful the s/c addition will make the M3 600 hp. As a pure guess I'm saying the s/c will add 6-7 psi and bring the hp up from 414 to around 515-525. **edit: I see AA has dynoed the car. Give up the details AA, nothing like possible Christmas pre-orders huh? Numbers please!**
That would take quite a bit of boost to make 600 hp. AA was the compression ratio lowered quite a bit for the s/c addition?

Any 1/4 mile testing yet? Times?

Ignorance is claiming it takes a lot of boost to hit 600 hp, when ESS has already hit and posted dyno's of 600 wheel on pump. They also hit the mid 500's wheel on 6 PSI on pump. I guess that is the benefit of having incredibly good flowing heads, forged internals, and a motor built to take 8400 rpm without breaking a sweat. The internals don't need to be touched and the compression does not need to be lowered. You get off boost power and response of a 12.0:1 naturally aspirated masterpiece of a motor combined with an incredible forced induction top end, best of all worlds.

Stop guessing and do some research, come back when you are at a level to contribute.

sales@ESSTuning · 12-23-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticky

Ignorance is claiming it takes a lot of boost to hit 600 hp, when ESS has already hit and posted dyno's of 600 wheel on pump. They also hit the mid 500's wheel on 6 PSI on pump. I guess that is the benefit of having incredibly good flowing heads, forged internals, and a motor built to take 8400 rpm without breaking a sweat. The internals don't need to messed with and the compression does not need to be lowered. You get off boost power and response of a 12.0:1 naturally aspirated masterpiece of a motor combined with an incredible forced induction top end, best of all worlds.

Stop guessing and do some research, come back when you are at a level to contribute.

Correct the ESS kit on pump with 9 PSI hit 600 wheel. With proper tuning and an improved intake the stock motor seems to respond very well to boost.

ChrisFastM3 · 12-23-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tightie

Nice job AA. Now I need to sit down and do my homework..

AA or VF?

AA any day! If your looking for the best of the best, there is no question.

1. They are world renown for FI to BMW's with a proven track record over 3 generations of BMW M3's & before that other cars
2. They focus on making reliable power
3. Their work is as close to OEM as you can get. Very clean work.
4. Carl & the rest of the AA family are all class act professionals.

Way to go Active!

supercharger on the e46 M3

Green-Eggs · 12-23-2008, 08:58 PM

The first kit on the West Coast will be installed by us at Auto Talent We will be providing technical support to the local region. So, feel comfortable that there is someplace near.

AA's expertise with superchargers/tuning throughout the years gives us confidence to say that this might be their best kit yet.

Horsepower is one thing if you want to compare dyno graphs but power that can be put to the ground is what is important. Not saying that AA doesn't have the capabilities to make the most power but more than the right amount might be too much which will cause traction problems & might take a lot of getting use to.

positiveions · 12-23-2008, 09:12 PM

I don't know what to say, except, you don't have time to shift from 1st to 2nd to 3rd.

OC ///M · 12-23-2008, 09:25 PM

Sam:

you've got a pm...

chompino · 12-23-2008, 10:28 PM

I can't wait for the numbers!!!! It's going to be hard not to jump on the first kit that is released. I'd like to go with AA since I had their turbo kit for my e36 and it was bulletproof. Much respect!

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Originally Posted by OC kid

Sam:

you've got a pm...

Awesome!

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