Leaking power steering fluid.

Sleeper519 · 05-10-2013, 09:20 PM

So, Kaiv, did the fluid that showed up in the overflow catch can not drain back down into the main reservoir?

surlynkid · 05-10-2013, 09:44 PM

Like I said earlier, the right way is the BMW Motorsports GT4 Power Steering Cooler. No leaks......

kaiv · 05-14-2013, 02:44 PM

I'm gonna order another reservoir from my local bmw motorrad dealer for a friend. Anyone else wants one let me know

DiegoM · 05-14-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

P/N: 32416767161, (#1 in diagram), about $30 from your local dealer and fits within the OEM bracket.

The M3's return line is a bit smaller than the reservoir's, so a step-adapter is needed - which can be obtained at any local auto parts store.

Tom, #1 in diagram, is it all I need to prevent such leak. Any other parts needed? I went to my dealer and they said its a part from the 335. They checked and showed me that 2012 & 2013 m3's have the same PS reservoir.

tom @ eas · 05-14-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DiegoM

Tom, #1 in diagram, is it all I need to prevent such leak. Any other parts needed? I went to my dealer and they said its a part from the 335. They checked and showed me that 2012 & 2013 m3's have the same PS reservoir.

#1 is what's needed. M3 still uses old style, all other current production models use the revised reservoir.

There is an adapter that is needed for the bottom nozzle since it is slightly larger (about 1 size) than the M3 hose. This can be purchased at any auto parts store.

Adobong_M · 05-18-2013, 03:50 PM

Thanks Tom (got a specific name for that adaptor?). And I might consider Surlynkids gt4 PS cooler recommendation too.

kaiv · 06-24-2013, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surlynkid

Like I said earlier, the right way is the BMW Motorsports GT4 Power Steering Cooler. No leaks......

If you added two rows of cooling but did not top off then you're low on fluid and there is less chance of spraying the engine bay. Some guys actually just do that (run a little less fluid at the track).

You could also run a reservoir that's 2 feet tall, I'm sure the fluid will have a hard time getting out up there

The cooler is the upgrade to get if you're killing pumps. In my case everything is working fine and I'm happy to save the $2k.

kaiv · 06-24-2013, 07:20 PM

Catch can as seen on the ALMS Z4 GTE

Couple kits I put together for local friends:

I edited/added details to the parts list for this kit if anyone wants to replicate

Quote:

Parts:

* Rear brake fluid reservoir from the BMW F650GS PN# 34 21 7 706 055
* 2 feet of vaccum line (Napa)
* 90° fitting is a 5/32" elbow connector PN#9873 (Napa)
* 1 M6 bolt (+ M6 washer)

aus · 06-24-2013, 07:40 PM

kaiv, thanks for listing everything.

Sleeper519 · 06-24-2013, 10:30 PM

I just installed my "kit" and will check it out at Barber in a couple of weeks. I think this is a brilliant and cheap fix for this problem. Hopefully no more splish-splash in the engine bay for me.

Thanks, kaiv!

Richard@M-World · 06-24-2013, 11:28 PM

Unless you are addressing the root cause of the problem (which appears to be the overheating of steering fluid), why all the trouble when you can do this?

Sleeper519 · 06-26-2013, 01:35 PM

^ I did this too, but it would soak thru and was still a messy situation. Was not acceptable to me. And the project was no trouble at all, kinda fun, and only 25 bucks. Compare that to the auxiliary PS coolers.

kaiv · 06-27-2013, 01:50 PM

Not acceptable for me either.

And you posted a pic of a clean cloth. After an event or two it gets absolutely disgusting and have fun cleaning it. Unless you replace it each time in which case it'll quickly get more expensive that our $30 "kit"

leo95se · 06-27-2013, 09:36 PM

Also many orgs don't like socks for fear of them coming off and making blogger problems on the track v

Richard@M-World · 06-28-2013, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kaiv

Not acceptable for me either.

And you posted a pic of a clean cloth. After an event or two it gets absolutely disgusting and have fun cleaning it. Unless you replace it each time in which case it'll quickly get more expensive that our $30 "kit"

I've since switched to a black wristband and it hides stains very well. But point taken

warp10 · 06-28-2013, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiv

Not acceptable for me either.

And you posted a pic of a clean cloth. After an event or two it gets absolutely disgusting and have fun cleaning it. Unless you replace it each time in which case it'll quickly get more expensive that our $30 "kit"

do you recall the length of the m6 bolt? So it screw directly into the silver thing?

Wendall · 08-07-2013, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

All current production BMWs are using the new reservoir (sans M3). The new unit has a slightly improved venting system.

Here's a shot of the revised version on my M3, which sees regular track use.

Tom, can you pm me the price to do the swap including parts.

Wendall · 08-07-2013, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiv

Catch can as seen on the ALMS Z4 GTE

Couple kits I put together for local friends:

I edited/added details to the parts list for this kit if anyone wants to replicate

Kaiv, any way you can put one of those kits together for me?

surlynkid · 08-07-2013, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiv

Catch can as seen on the ALMS Z4 GTE

Couple kits I put together for local friends:

I edited/added details to the parts list for this kit if anyone wants to replicate

I think people will be good to go if you also gave them the ID of the tubing. Nice work though.

Wendall · 08-07-2013, 03:16 PM

Done, I got it ordered. The tubing ID is 4mm. I got the 4mm silicon hose from amazon.

kaiv · 08-14-2013, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surlynkid

I think people will be good to go if you also gave them the ID of the tubing. Nice work though.

Man you guys really have to be spoon fed lol. Go to Napa for the fitting and get whatever hose they have that fits it.. It's pretty standard stuff.

MDORPHN · 06-11-2014, 11:55 AM

Apologize for being a bit late to the party.

I have a heavily tracked 1M -- with the updated ps reservoir -- but still lose quite a bit of fluid on track.

What needs to be done to adapt Kaiv's kit to work with the updated reservoir?

Thanks.

Neil

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Adobong_M Private First Class 10 Rep 119 Posts Drives: 2012 E92 ZCP MW; 2008 545; X5d Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: XXX iTrader: (0)	Thanks Tom (got a specific name for that adaptor?). And I might consider Surlynkids gt4 PS cooler recommendation too.
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Sleeper519 Captain 68 Rep 869 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	I just installed my "kit" and will check it out at Barber in a couple of weeks. I think this is a brilliant and cheap fix for this problem. Hopefully no more splish-splash in the engine bay for me. Thanks, kaiv! __________________ 2008 M3 Coupe / DCT // StopTech BBK 380/355 / Pagid RS29 / Motul / Apex Arc-8 / BFG R1S / Ground Control / MS filter / Performance spoiler / BPM tune // Road Atlanta 1:39.70 / VIR Full 2:10.87 / Barber 1:42.20
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Sleeper519 Captain 68 Rep 869 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	^ I did this too, but it would soak thru and was still a messy situation. Was not acceptable to me. And the project was no trouble at all, kinda fun, and only 25 bucks. Compare that to the auxiliary PS coolers. __________________ 2008 M3 Coupe / DCT // StopTech BBK 380/355 / Pagid RS29 / Motul / Apex Arc-8 / BFG R1S / Ground Control / MS filter / Performance spoiler / BPM tune // Road Atlanta 1:39.70 / VIR Full 2:10.87 / Barber 1:42.20
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kaiv IG: limited.slip 331 Rep 1,918 Posts Drives: E46 M3 in a 325i Touring body! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (31)	Not acceptable for me either. And you posted a pic of a clean cloth. After an event or two it gets absolutely disgusting and have fun cleaning it. Unless you replace it each time in which case it'll quickly get more expensive that our $30 "kit"
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MDORPHN Colonel 291 Rep 2,898 Posts Drives: AW 1M Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wash, DC iTrader: (0)	Apologize for being a bit late to the party. I have a heavily tracked 1M -- with the updated ps reservoir -- but still lose quite a bit of fluid on track. What needs to be done to adapt Kaiv's kit to work with the updated reservoir? Thanks. Neil
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