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Your maintenance is key with ANY CAR from GERMANY. While I believe Asian cars and some American are easier on the cost for maintenance and just all around requires less.
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For real, there's no arguing about the fact that older Audis where really unreliable cars, I had 3(2 A4 and 1 TT) and had problem with all 3 of them, things that you should never have to replace in a car, but newer audis does'nt seem to have these problems, same for Volkwagen!
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yes, still think so, but if you absolutly need to compare it to an other car,
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had an A4 a few years back; as soon as it hit 75K miles, the thing just started falling apart; massive oil leaks, cat converter issues, 02 sensor issues; spent $1K a month for a while fixing it; gave up and got a honda civic. my buddy also has a late model A4 and it's starting to give him a lot of pain in the wallet; audi's are horrible.........
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1- Absolutly need to drive my car 12 months/year, even in the snow! 2- No 991 911TT yet 3- Just LOOOOOOVES Audis! Curious to know what you would buy!? Here's a little video of the new R8 V10 Plus which features many aesthetical changes, new 7-speed dual clutch tranny, bump in horse power and sportier interior, to me it's the R8 I've always wnated to see! Last edited by Alex07M3; 12-03-2012 at 03:16 PM.. |
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BMW has been following Audi, while all this time, Audi, "Never Follow," has been slowly gaining on BMW turf. The F30 and F10 both have lost the drive to be a "drivers car." BMW needs a car that will up the anti to the automotive world. Not, an "i" car, but a real sports car. My E92 M3 may be my last BMW if the F30 is any indication of where BMW is headed. But just to be clear, neither will an Audi.
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And what about the S6, M5 and E63 comparo:
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test As a recent RS4 owner, I almost cancelled my E92 order after reading this...although would've prolly gone with the RS5. Having played extensively with both manufacturers, I think it can be summed up pretty simply: BMW is built to drive whereas Audi is built to enjoy. So if you're like me and you want to enjoy your drive (hehe..) you can find yourself on the fence. I'll prolly go back to an RS something in a year or so. |
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Comparison test, schmarison test, SALES DON'T LIE.
Granted, it's a 3 series, but still, it goes to show BMW's strength in the market. Money talks. Editorial reviews meh. BMW is responding to each demo target for each car type.
Changes to 5, 7, etc. may not be what we want regarding "sportier" edge, but it's what the consumer wants. Let's just hope the 3 keeps it sportier edge. =============== http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=777275 3 Series Sales Up 42% for November 2012 and 3.5% For the Year From BMW's November 2012 sales report, here are some updated sales stats for the 3 series. 10,776 3 Series were sold in November 2012, representing a 42.4% increase over November 2011. 88,857 3 Series have been sold year-to-date in 2012, an increase of 3.5% over same period last year. It appears that 3 Series sales are doing just fine, contrary to what some naysayers may claim. Sales chart: Quote:
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Good point, but people still need to make the decision to go with a bimmer based on their test driver, peer reviews, buyer satisfaction, etc. Nothing is for sure or normal in a 42% increase year over year in sales. God, wouldn't that be sweet to say so.
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Gigidity...
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...5#post13092355 38% up in sales for BMW brand, 56% for cars! Daamnnn...and don't tell me "oh it's new models only", it's not like AUDI, MERC, etc. hasn't released a gazillion new models.
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Audi is still mounting motors in front of the front axles and their cars are still very heavy. Also their torque vectoring technology is only in a limited number of models. Yes, in general most Audi's do drive like a glorified Passats. Tons of weight at the nose, dead steering, understeer understeer understeer. Exceptions being their new S models, new A6, A8.
Don't get me wrong, we are on our 8th Audi in the direct family but BMW still has the purists right now IMO, especially with their "Diesel Blitz" coming for 2013. Here's an example, per my experience. We just ordered an Audi Q5 S-line with the 3.0T supercharged motor, flat bottom steering wheel with paddles, 20's, 8speed, summer tires etc. It's cooler then the X3 35i, manlier, more responsive motor, better sound and IMO better all around inside and in any weather. However, if were are talking about raw performance I think the X3 35i Msport has it beat in terms of overall dynamics, feel, balance. This is just in SUV's... As far as others, i'll give a brief opinion S8 vs B7 - S8 has it beat all around. AWD grip, torque vectoring RWD LSD style rear diff, massively underrated unlike the BMW, beautiful in and out. But stop and think, when has any 7 series been better than an S8. Never IMO. RS5 vs M3 - The M3 is the drivers car. M5 vs S6 - M5 is still much more of a drivers car.It's even offered with a manual, and is blisteringly fast on a road course despite what you'd expect from cruising around town. TT-RS vs 1M - This is debatable, down to the figures. You could argue the TT is still a TT, engine is mounted to far up, prone to understeer, less communicative steering. However, the 1M is a little pokey coupe with a too high of a roofline and power that's all but gone at 5800rpm like ever other 335/535/735/135/X5 35/X3 35/X6 35i/135/Z4 35 (LOL, you follow me). What i'm getting at is the fact that the RS inline-5 is so unique probably has the 1M looking pretty generic as well. If you are disappointed about F.I BMW's diluting what made BMW's so legendary, there is still some faith M135i - Evo Magazines contender for best performance car of 2012 The video says it all about overall dynamics BMW vs Audi which is relatable to almost all models.
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not really, the RS3 has a Haldex AWD system that put more power to the front wheels which makes it drive more like a FWD with no traction problems, not really representative of the rest of the line up. Even a basic A4 2.0t has an AWD system that put 60% of the power to the back wheels to favorise a sportier handling!
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