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      11-02-2010, 07:56 PM   #243
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i put 18s all around, however the rear look like they need spacers. is there a particular size spacer to push the rears out similar to my 19 stock wheels?
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      11-03-2010, 03:18 AM   #244
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Thanks Ben!!

My e92 is from 2008 so it looks like you have the sensors available now.

I will have to read about the PA3 vs. PA2 to better understand.

A few more questions:
- any other options than the Sport Edition A7s for this set-up? (I guess the OEM 18"do not work.... right?)
- do the BMW center caps fit in the A7s?

Lastly, I also got interested in the "All season" options you described when answering the "marshmallowy" ride question.... I will look into this because I am not planning on driving in deep snow... it is just that I can't use the PS2s in cold weather.
There is no reason you can't use the OEM 18s but a 235 will be too narrow for the rears. The A7s are a great choice for winter duty, IMO.

TR does have caps that fit. I keep forgetting to order them for mine. Ben can hook you up.

If you will never actually drive on snow you can probably get by with all-seasons but you'll have to be much more mindful of ice. FWIW, the only real snow I drive in is on the street in my village (they only plow main roads here) and I still went with Wintersport 3Ds. They're quite good even now and we haven't had our first snowfall yet.
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      11-03-2010, 08:27 AM   #245
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m3 reps 18x9.0 et20 square + blizzak ws60 245/40/18 square

Yea or nay?
If I was buying those wheels I'd use 255/40-18 tires. You're in Maryland, so the slightly wider tires aren't likely to affect your snow traction significantly and will improve your cold weather traction the other 98% of the time.

The ws60s seem to be overkill for your area of the country. There seems to be a wide selection of appropriate winter tires in 255/40. I'd go with the PA2, but only because I've been happy with them the last 4 winters in Minnesota, lake effect NY and Pennsylvania. If you were in Canada or the mountains, then I would recommend ws60s.
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      11-03-2010, 02:43 PM   #246
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There is no reason you can't use the OEM 18s but a 235 will be too narrow for the rears. The A7s are a great choice for winter duty, IMO.

TR does have caps that fit. I keep forgetting to order them for mine. Ben can hook you up.

If you will never actually drive on snow you can probably get by with all-seasons but you'll have to be much more mindful of ice. FWIW, the only real snow I drive in is on the street in my village (they only plow main roads here) and I still went with Wintersport 3Ds. They're quite good even now and we haven't had our first snowfall yet.
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Caps are $15 each, original BMW.
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      11-03-2010, 03:33 PM   #247
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ben - I've been trying to reach you since monday. PM's, emailed, called and left VM's but I haven't heard back.
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      11-03-2010, 04:20 PM   #248
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ben - I've been trying to reach you since monday. PM's, emailed, called and left VM's but I haven't heard back.
I've been blitzed, so I apologize if I missed you. I haven't been in my PM's, but I've been on email and phone. I don't think I've missed any voicemails, but my phone pretty much hasn't stopped ringing since Monday AM. Email me to ben@tirerack.com, or leave me a voicemail this afternoon and I'll get back before 8pm Eastern.
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      11-07-2010, 07:45 PM   #249
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Looking to buy some winter tires/wheels for my E92 M3. Will 19” x 8.5 and 19” x 9.5” with 20mm offset fit?
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      11-09-2010, 07:42 AM   #250
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any other 19" tires for the M3 besides the Blizzaks? I prefer the Michelin pilot PA3. I'm gonna need tires really soon and dont want the Blizzaks.
235/35R19 F and 255/35R19 R, Dunlop wintersport 3D is available.
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235/35R19 F and 255/35R19 R, Dunlop wintersport 3D is available.
BEN: Pls confirm Rear ZCP (19x10) would stretch the 255 rear too much or not? I am worried about performance first and foremost, looks second.

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BEN: Pls confirm Rear ZCP (19x10) would stretch the 255 rear too much or not? I am worried about performance first and foremost, looks second.

Thanks!
Tire manufacturers recommend the 255/35R19 to fit from 8.5"-10". So yes, it fits, there is no safety hazard, and the tire will perform as intended by the manufacturer.

It definitely will look a bit stretched (not like VW tuner stretched, but the tire is about 10" wide in it's normal state, and the wheel is 10" wide at the bead seat, and more like 11" wide flange to flange.
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Im going to run stock 18s as winter wheels and I'm trying to decide on a tire. First I can't decide whether to put the same size tires on front and rear or to stick with the sock staggered sizes. Second is whether to get performance winter tires or ice/snow tires. I'll b daily driving it just north of Boston. What are your thoughts?

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For the 19" ZCP rims, how would you describe the differences between the Blizzak LM-60s and the Dunlop Wintersport 3D (both in 235/255 staggered setup)?
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Will 18x8.5 ET 35 Front and 18x9.5 ET 30 Rear clear the brakes on a E90 M3? As far as spacers what would you recommend? Thanks.
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      11-16-2010, 05:40 PM   #256
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For the 19" ZCP rims, how would you describe the differences between the Blizzak LM-60s and the Dunlop Wintersport 3D (both in 235/255 staggered setup)?
Very similar. Blizzak a little more snow traction, Dunlop a little sportier handling, but they are quite similar.
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      11-16-2010, 05:41 PM   #257
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Will 18x8.5 ET 35 Front and 18x9.5 ET 30 Rear clear the brakes on a E90 M3? As far as spacers what would you recommend? Thanks.
Offset and width are not enough to determine brake clearance. Spoke design plays a major role. More reliable is to talk to the vendor of the wheel, and see if they can confirm it fits the M3.
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Im going to run stock 18s as winter wheels and I'm trying to decide on a tire. First I can't decide whether to put the same size tires on front and rear or to stick with the sock staggered sizes. Second is whether to get performance winter tires or ice/snow tires. I'll b daily driving it just north of Boston. What are your thoughts?
Square (all 4 front size) works better in more serious winter weather. Staggered gives better performance and handling on clear roads.

Same choices apply on ice/snow and performance winter.

If you want an ice/snow tire, our only choice is square setup.

If you go performance winter, you can go either way.

Basically, get the best snow traction you can with handling that you can live with.

Rhetorical questions: Do you have situations where you MUST drive, and must use the M3, no matter how awful the weather (ie doctor on call)? If so, you get the ice/snow tire.

Are you more likely to be a) raging with frustration b/c your handling is not sporty enough or b) freaking out because you're sliding down a steep winding road that is iced over?

Is this your only vehicle, or do you have another car to drive if the weather is truly nasty?
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      11-22-2010, 04:37 PM   #259
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Here's my winter setup

19" 167s (staggered M6 offset) with 255/35-19 and 265/35-19 Blizzaks:







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      11-23-2010, 12:53 AM   #260
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That looks really, really good.
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      11-26-2010, 10:59 AM   #261
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Where did you get the wheels?
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So what if I just switched tires each season on the OEM 19s? Seems uncommon so what are the pitfalls? I know the tires are bigger, wider etc and I'm aware of the general tradeoffs. I'm going with performance snow tires rather than the full deal.

Most my driving is inside the city of Chicago. Limited distances and well-maintained roads, but its cold and snows frequently. Parallel parking is a necessity and snow accumulates in parking spaces despite plowing.

What should I expect for the maintenance costs of mount/dismount each season? Advantages seem that I avoid purchasing winter wheels & get good looking (19") forged wheels year round. I'd probably buy non-forged, 18" vmr v710s otherwise.
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I bought them from a guy here on m3.post in the classifieds back in MAY (I was thinking ahead...). Nobody buys snow tires in May

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364503

All 4 wheels (OEM BMW with TPMS) + tires = $1500 USD.

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