Will Evolve Tune hurt the car in any way?

[eNCore]

I recently got Akrapovic Evolution installed, and still deciding on either getting the Delete-R or tune to get rid of the CEL. Most people say go with the Evolve Tune, and it is one of the best mod for the car. My question is will the tune hurt or damage the car in any way? After 10 years or 100,000 miles? Is it 100% safe? Thanks!

[boosted43]

Not very familiar with the evolve tune itself, however tunes aren't necessarily considered safe. it can cause issues, however it can also run perfectly fine. why it differs? i don't know haha. i personally run a cobb accessport on my 335 and it runs fine at 49k. no issues so far.

[xilli]

Originally Posted by ///M-Turismo

I recently got Akrapovic Evolution installed, and still deciding on either getting the Delete-R or tune to get rid of the CEL. Most people say go with the Evolve Tune, and it is one of the best mod for the car. My question is will the tune hurt or damage the car in any way? After 10 years or 100,000 miles? Is it 100% safe? Thanks!

It's impossible to answer your question as there isn't an M3 that is 10 years old, and i doubt many that have had a tune for 100,000 miles. You'll find plenty of people that have had a tune for a couple of years and had no issues whatsoever. I've had the evolve tune for about 5 months and absolutely love it, i plan to keep it on the car until the day i trade it in!

As for safety, i believe all reputable tuners will make their adjustments within the boundaries they believe to be safe.. as none of them will want to have their name next to a '***** Tune blew up my motor!' thread. Talk to Sal at evolve if you want a little more reassurance as to the safety of their tunes.

[pbonsalb]

I was thinking about this claimed 02 simulator that has a tiny bit of cat in the extended 02 bung:

http://www.bigdaddiesgarage.com/mini-cat-cel-fix.html

I made an inquiry and Pete from the company studiously avoided my question -- will it work on an E90M3 with S65 engine, and simply regurgitate boilerplate language from his website. I followed up by asking whether it worked or not and asked if I could try it and return it if it does not work as claimed. He again avoided answering the question of whether it would work and regurgitated more language from the website about how these are nonreturnable racing parts. After that, I got the message.

Maybe someone else wants to roll the dice on $100? Even then, the question is how long would it take for the mini cat to clog.

[BMWJ]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I was thinking about this claimed 02 simulator that has a tiny bit of cat in the extended 02 bung:

http://www.bigdaddiesgarage.com/mini-cat-cel-fix.html

I made an inquiry and Pete from the company studiously avoided my question -- will it work on an E90M3 with S65 engine, and simply regurgitate boilerplate language from his website. I followed up by asking whether it worked or not and asked if I could try it and return it if it does not work as claimed. He again avoided answering the question of whether it would work and regurgitated more language from the website about how these are nonreturnable racing parts. After that, I got the message.

Maybe someone else wants to roll the dice on $200? Even then, the question is how long would it take for the mini cat to clog.

Aren't they only $50 each? Looks interesting, I wonder if it works. Guessing probably not if he wouldn't directly answer your question

[Singletrack]

Originally Posted by ///M-Turismo

I recently got Akrapovic Evolution installed, and still deciding on either getting the Delete-R or tune to get rid of the CEL. Most people say go with the Evolve Tune, and it is one of the best mod for the car. My question is will the tune hurt or damage the car in any way? After 10 years or 100,000 miles? Is it 100% safe? Thanks!

Any increase in power will increase wear, on some level, over time. Evolve has a great reputation from their work on the E46, specific to the difficult job of tuning the alpha N/CSL/Evolve airbox. They leave all the OEM protection in the ECU, so if anything does jump our of spec, the programming will protect the engine.

There are people that have been supercharged for 50k miles without issue, so IMHO, the chances of a tune causing a catastrophic failure, or significantly decreasing the life of the engine, is extremely low. Provided the tuner is competent of course : )

[Singletrack]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I was thinking about this claimed 02 simulator that has a tiny bit of cat in the extended 02 bung:

http://www.bigdaddiesgarage.com/mini-cat-cel-fix.html

I made an inquiry and Pete from the company studiously avoided my question -- will it work on an E90M3 with S65 engine, and simply regurgitate boilerplate language from his website. I followed up by asking whether it worked or not and asked if I could try it and return it if it does not work as claimed. He again avoided answering the question of whether it would work and regurgitated more language from the website about how these are nonreturnable racing parts. After that, I got the message.

Maybe someone else wants to roll the dice on $100? Even then, the question is how long would it take for the mini cat to clog.

I SEVERELY doubt that will work. The engine monitors the voltage at the pre and post O2 and is looking for a specific change across the cats. The chances that this generic piece will result in the correct reading seems extremely low to me.

To give you an idea, the fabspeed extenders, which do work, needed to be designed with their HFCs in mind. In some cases, they still do not work 100% for some people.

If you are super paranoid, then you could ask for a tune that *just* disabled the cat inefficiency code without changing anything else. Personally, it seems that most tuners have invested a decent amount of time on the akra tune, so it is probably pretty darn good.

Good luck!

[BMW Fanatic]

Trollllllllllll. All your threads are a waste of time and most look to slander the M3. Have you even posted a pic of your ///M anywhere on the forums yet?

[alpine335i]

You will be perfectly fine with any of the tunes on the market. OE, AA, etc etc... as far as the guy with the 335 and the access port, i'm not sure why your even commenting in here when you have no knowledge of the M3. O2 sims and extenders DO NOT WORK.

[THE TECH]

Originally Posted by Singletrack

Any increase in power will increase wear, on some level, over time. Evolve has a great reputation from their work on the E46, specific to the difficult job of tuning the alpha N/CSL/Evolve airbox. They leave all the OEM protection in the ECU, so if anything does jump our of spec, the programming will protect the engine.

There are people that have been supercharged for 50k miles without issue, so IMHO, the chances of a tune causing a catastrophic failure, or significantly decreasing the life of the engine, is extremely low. Provided the tuner is competent of course : )

+1

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by BMW Fanatic

Trollllllllllll. All your threads are a waste of time and most look to slander the M3. Have you even posted a pic of your ///M anywhere on the forums yet?

His post is legit, his Akrapovic was installed at our facility.



The evolve tune has been very good on the few cars we have dynoed, as well as reported from others using their tunes.

[BMW Fanatic]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

His post is legit, his Akrapovic was installed at our facility.

The evolve tune has been very good on the few cars we have dynoed, as well as reported from others using their tunes.

LOL! I just realized this isn't the guy I was thinking of! Apologies OP

[Dave07997S]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I was thinking about this claimed 02 simulator that has a tiny bit of cat in the extended 02 bung:

http://www.bigdaddiesgarage.com/mini-cat-cel-fix.html

I made an inquiry and Pete from the company studiously avoided my question -- will it work on an E90M3 with S65 engine, and simply regurgitate boilerplate language from his website. I followed up by asking whether it worked or not and asked if I could try it and return it if it does not work as claimed. He again avoided answering the question of whether it would work and regurgitated more language from the website about how these are nonreturnable racing parts. After that, I got the message.

Maybe someone else wants to roll the dice on $100? Even then, the question is how long would it take for the mini cat to clog.

I couldn't get those to work, well even fit on my xpipe. The tranny is in the way. The ones Fabspeed uses are the J shaped and more sleek..

Dave

[pbonsalb]

I suppose you could screw them into angled or curved extenders. The big question is whether they work. Vibrant sells some nice straight and curved extenders, with 3 different inserts to limit the flow of exhaust gas, but I have not tried them, either.

[Taz@Evolve. P]

We are a company that plans to be here for a very long time. Though we don't proclaim to push the boundaries of what is avialable, we prefer to stay within the confines of long-term safety whilst supplying more power, better throttle response and the ability to choose options coupled with an advanced yet simple install program (that also reads and clears fault codes).

We've just had more stock in too

[boosted43]

Originally Posted by alpine335i

You will be perfectly fine with any of the tunes on the market. OE, AA, etc etc... as far as the guy with the 335 and the access port, i'm not sure why your even commenting in here when you have no knowledge of the M3. O2 sims and extenders DO NOT WORK.

i was just trying to help, i have a decent amount of knowledge on the m3, not claiming im a god or anything. no need to be a dick...

[alpine335i]

Originally Posted by kabawi91

i was just trying to help, i have a decent amount of knowledge on the m3, not claiming im a god or anything. no need to be a dick...

Not being a dick, too many people on the forums with not enough knowledge to answer questions. you may be misleading someone and then that person becomes mis-informed.

[kyleb350]

I think if you mod your car at all, much less having full exhaust, you're really rolling the dice expecting it to last 10 years/100k miles. I think having your car last that long stock is an accomplishment in itself.

With that said, having the Evolve tune myself, it doesn't radically transform the car into a monster. You get a bit more power, get better throttle response, and have the option for turning the cold start cat warm-up process off.

[THE TECH]

Originally Posted by kyleb350

I think if you mod your car at all, much less having full exhaust, you're really rolling the dice expecting it to last 10 years/100k miles. I think having your car last that long stock is an accomplishment in itself.

With that said, having the Evolve tune myself, it doesn't radically transform the car into a monster. You get a bit more power, get better throttle response, and have the option for turning the cold start cat warm-up process off.

No offense but if you think that minor mods are gonna cut the life expectancy of your car down, you are very mistaken. Now forced induction on the other hand, you might be able to argue a case against.

[Singletrack]

Originally Posted by kyleb350

I think if you mod your car at all, much less having full exhaust, you're really rolling the dice expecting it to last 10 years/100k miles. I think having your car last that long stock is an accomplishment in itself.

Based on?

I don't think people appreciate the HELL that BMW puts these cars through in testing.

[alpine335i]

Originally Posted by Singletrack

Based on?

I don't think people appreciate the HELL that BMW puts these cars through in testing.

Exactly my point. Too many people on this forum spreading false info to others.