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      10-31-2009, 08:51 PM   #23
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I'm getting 24l/100km, 9.8 mpg, all downtown driving in Toronto, is this something I should worry about?
I average 19l/100KM. Most of it downtown toronto. With this car I am surprised how much driving style affects gas consumption. I have had 15l/100km on the same route with slower acceleration.
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      10-31-2009, 11:19 PM   #24
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I average 19l/100KM. Most of it downtown toronto. With this car I am surprised how much driving style affects gas consumption. I have had 15l/100km on the same route with slower acceleration.
I haven't exactly pounded it in the city, but maybe I will try to granny it and see how much it changes.
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I haven't exactly pounded it in the city, but maybe I will try to granny it and see how much it changes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_s...el_consumption

You don't need to granny it, in fact you want to get out of first and second gears as quickly as possible and with a fairly wide open throttle (low throttle loss). After that it's more a function of smoothness and avoiding high revs/low load which is the black hole where most M3 drivers are throwing away gas. I'm now down to 11.1 l./100 km. average and I am not a slow driver - I generally drive 20 kph over everywhere and 30 or more over on the QEW and 401. After break in I expect to be in the high 10s.
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Your commute can't be downhill both ways, If you go from point A to point B and after you return to point A, no difference in altitude. It just can't be downhill both ways!
I think there was a "JOKE" in there somewhere......
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      11-01-2009, 02:31 PM   #28
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I think there was a "JOKE" in there somewhere......
I hope it was a JOKE when he said it's downhill both ways
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      11-01-2009, 02:51 PM   #29
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_s...el_consumption

You don't need to granny it, in fact you want to get out of first and second gears as quickly as possible and with a fairly wide open throttle (low throttle loss). After that it's more a function of smoothness and avoiding high revs/low load which is the black hole where most M3 drivers are throwing away gas. I'm now down to 11.1 l./100 km. average and I am not a slow driver - I generally drive 20 kph over everywhere and 30 or more over on the QEW and 401. After break in I expect to be in the high 10s.
I agree you don't need to granny it, but stop and go traffic, numerous traffic lights and trying to pass the TTC street cars ;-), will have a significant impact to fuel consumption. I have also found that using shell gas has improved fuel consumption.
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Before the stroker motor, I would routinely get 21.7 MPG from Los Angeles to San Jose (entire trip on one tank of gas). After the stroker, I get 15.7 on the same trip!
Maybe the stroker should include a larger tank or a fuel cell in the trunk
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I agree you don't need to granny it, but stop and go traffic, numerous traffic lights and trying to pass the TTC street cars ;-), will have a significant impact to fuel consumption. I have also found that using shell gas has improved fuel consumption.
Now I remember why I left Toronto!
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      11-01-2009, 09:13 PM   #32
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_s...el_consumption

You don't need to granny it, in fact you want to get out of first and second gears as quickly as possible and with a fairly wide open throttle (low throttle loss). After that it's more a function of smoothness and avoiding high revs/low load which is the black hole where most M3 drivers are throwing away gas. I'm now down to 11.1 l./100 km. average and I am not a slow driver - I generally drive 20 kph over everywhere and 30 or more over on the QEW and 401. After break in I expect to be in the high 10s.
What RPM should I shift at, should I shift low enough that I'm lugging third, or go to 3000 then shift?


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I agree you don't need to granny it, but stop and go traffic, numerous traffic lights and trying to pass the TTC street cars ;-), will have a significant impact to fuel consumption. I have also found that using shell gas has improved fuel consumption.
Fortunately I have a Route that only has a bit of streetcar traffic, Stop signs are probably what kills me.
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      11-01-2009, 09:20 PM   #33
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Fortunately I have a Route that only has a bit of streetcar traffic, Stop signs are probably what kills me.[/QUOTE]

Pressing the M button too many time also kills my fuel consumption. But it is so much fun.
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What RPM should I shift at, should I shift low enough that I'm lugging third, or go to 3000 then shift?

Fortunately I have a Route that only has a bit of streetcar traffic, Stop signs are probably what kills me.
I can't be sure, since I'm still breaking it in and it's a DCT. I'm mostly driving it in D4 and shifting to S3 in traffic jams. With my E46 I shifted from 1st and 2nd at 3000 and kept the loudness button off. I averaged 9.8 with the E46, 9.2 with the 335i. The stop signs are tough.
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      11-01-2009, 10:33 PM   #35
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The car is far too much fun to drive to worry about granny footing it to save a couple of bucks in gas... you might as well save real money and buy a 328.


If you drive 12,000 miles a year and get 15mpg, you are buying 800 gallons of gas a year. At 20mpg you are buying 600 gallons.

At 2.75/gallon, the additional 200 gallons will cost you just $550 per year, or about an additional 10 bucks a week.

Whether you lease you car or bought it, you are paying about 400 bucks a month extra to drive your M3 over the cost of a 328 (assuming a 3 year ownership).

Why pay all that extra $$ to drive an M car and then go limping around to save 10 bucks a week in gas? Pointless.

If you have to worry about an extra 500 bucks a year in gas, you have no business owning an M car.

Put me in the drive it like you stole it column.

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The car is far too much fun to drive to worry about granny footing it to save a couple of bucks in gas... you might as well save real money and buy a 328.

If you drive 12,000 miles a year and get 15mpg, you are buying 800 gallons of gas a year. At 20mpg you are buying 600 gallons.

At 2.75/gallon, the additional 200 gallons will cost you just $550 per year, or about an additional 10 bucks a week.

Whether you lease you car or bought it, you are paying about 400 bucks a month extra to drive your M3 over the cost of a 328 (assuming a 3 year ownership).

Why pay all that extra $$ to drive an M car and then go limping around to save 10 bucks a week in gas? Pointless.

If you have to worry about an extra 500 bucks a year in gas, you have no business owning an M car.

Put me in the drive it like you stole it column.
Well, we need to do this in metric in Canada. I drive 60,000 kilometers a year. An extra 3.7 l./100 km. works out to an additional 2,220 liters, at a price of $1 per liter or more. But it isn't really about the money.
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