Updated Lexus IS-F faster than M3 around a track?

[BzsBimmer]

Originally Posted by Disturbed

What about a hellcat Charger. $65k new. Heck of a car for the money. They are underrated and are closer to 750hp with that awesome 8sp auto.

Good luck actually getting it out the door for that price
for $15K ish more, get a vette

The C63 AMG is so so.
It's a torque monster however IMHO the E9X is a better all around performance car.

[SunnyD]

The problem with the C63 AMG is that you'll be buying rear tires every 5-7k miles if you drive spiritedly

[mrtt]

Originally Posted by SunnyD

The problem with the C63 AMG is that you'll be buying rear tires every 5-7k miles if you drive spiritedly

Only reason why I picked up my E55 years ago was because I got addicted to how hard it pulled with 4 people in the car. With Headers, exhaust, and tune, ~460hp/530tq. My tires lasted way longer than that.

[neliconcept]

ISF has a good motor sound, one thing I don't like about it is that the second intake opens up after hitting like 3k rpms I think and it gives you that drone sound effect and I don't like that. It's a damn good drivers car and I've driven both it and the e92. both feel quite the same with the e92 having better braking power.

[SunnyD]

Originally Posted by neliconcept

ISF has a good motor sound, one thing I don't like about it is that the second intake opens up after hitting like 3k rpms I think and it gives you that drone sound effect and I don't like that.

Most people love hearing the secondary intake open up once you get above 3600rpms

[MrPrena]

Near where I live at, I've seen more C63 AMG than M3 or ISF around.

I would drive all and find out what he likes better. Track time is important, but it is that one specific track. I am sure if they track those 3 cars in Silverstone, Imola, and Monza, it would have a totally different results/time on all those 3 vehicles.

[Alex_bm]

Originally Posted by neliconcept

ISF has a good motor sound, one thing I don't like about it is that the second intake opens up after hitting like 3k rpms I think and it gives you that drone sound effect and I don't like that. It's a damn good drivers car and I've driven both it and the e92. both feel quite the same with the e92 having better braking power.

Steering on ISF felt completely disconnected. I actually preferred overall driving experience on 335is compared to Lexus.
M3 feels a lot more connected and engaging to drive.