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11-02-2010, 04:45 PM | #46 | |
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As for the CSL, if such a variant is actually produced, it may weigh less than the currently produced M3, but if the intent is to sell a truly lightweight/hardcore iteration, that weight-adding DCT has to go along with a slew of other weight-jacking non-essentials. However, DCT probably will be retained for a "uber lightweight" version, and that would impress me as BMW/M stopping short of maximizing weight reduction potential. Perhaps BMW/M Division will pleasantly surprise some of us for a change. |
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11-02-2010, 04:59 PM | #47 |
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If its a TT car, expect torque figures between 430 and 500 lb-ft. Turbo charged engines can produce gob smacking torque. The only downside is whether this engine will be based off of the N54/55 series or a downgraded 8 cylinder M engine. I hope its the latter since the 54/55 are notorious for fuel pump failures
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I am hoping the next M3 will compete with the CURRENT R35 GT-R... without the hassles that come along with the Skyline. That will make it a must buy imo...of course that'll be very difficult (even for BMW).
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11-02-2010, 05:04 PM | #49 | |
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If they made an M3 with amazing performance, you would not buy it if there was a GT version available as well? So, you have a hell of a car that other manufacturers TRY to be, performs excellent... you would buy that car, but if the same car also had a GT varient, you would NOT consider it? Makes no sense from an enthusiast/performance standpoint.
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11-02-2010, 05:09 PM | #50 |
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please please please whatever you do, or your people, or your people's people do...make sure the throttle response is quick
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11-02-2010, 05:15 PM | #51 |
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IF they keep hp up in the 400+ range, and add more low end torque on a lighter body, that can only mean good things.
All the FI bashers out there... Do you really think BMW will produce something less desirable than the current M3? FI will also probably bring EPA figures closer to non-SUV status. |
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11-02-2010, 05:30 PM | #52 | |
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Try the Sprint Booster or the Gintani tune which has the same effect plus more power. I picked up a Sprint Booster last week for $200 and couldnt be happier with the money I spent vs. the instant GO feeling of getting on the pedal. But if you wanna spend a lil more, definitely go for the Gintani tune which will give you more power AND get the snappy response from the pedal.
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I've manned a turbo car before with no fuel pump problems.
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I realize the HPFP issues have gone on longer than they should have, but I would assume that by 2014, they would have solved that particular problem.
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Not going to happen - see above. The new M3 will not have anywhere close to the power to weight ratio of the GT-R since it has ~ 530 hp.
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11-02-2010, 06:39 PM | #58 |
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Not really....
I'm a huge BMW fan boy. Don't get me wrong the E9X M3 is definitely a beautiful car, with wonderful cornering skills. The interior is also on point. Actually most of everything in that car is on point, except for the engine output. It always seems that the M3 is behind compared to it's competition in the HP and TQ aspect. I'm not sure if BMW does that just because they want people looking for more sheer power to buy an M5 or M6, but those cars are quite large/heavy and considerably more expensive. Prime example of good competition: CTS-V. Edit: Well apparently mister gthal deleted his comment before I could respond
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I am quite happy w/ the sport+ setting if i'm being honest, but turbos can not come very close to being as snappy as that that's what i want BMW to do! |
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Actually, I don't know how my post got deleted? I didn't intend to delete it. Anyway, I said what you quoted
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I don't know, it just sucks bigtime that their going to go with the FI platform. I mean, M division is all about improving their NA platforms, and each time they keep impressing us, untill now. I i guess they have to be pushed towards more enviromental but i think its just bs.
Oh well, i guess next car will either a gt3 rs or maybe a fun project SC'd e46 m3, we shall see, so far i luv this car and i dont car what other people say, a turbo charged car will never sound as good as a high revving NA car, IMO!
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As it was pointed out before they bring up the point of low sales for the sedans and are they out of their minds thinking a M3 GT would fix that? Jesus, I need to get a job at BMW then. |
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Then add the fact the next gen C AMG will have a TTV8, putting it in a different league power wise. |
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still no answer to what CSL is......
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