Official Geneva Auto Show Debut List

[bambam]

AWESOME!!!!

it's break it or make it time for BMW.

hahaha that lexus is trash

[NaViT]

wow alot of good cars coming out....

[monsta]

Why can't it be next week already....:rocks: I can't wait...

Bill

[m_bazeepaymon]

and again I know this is a repeat but I hope every1 can get the pics up A.S.A.P.
I will not sleep the night before even though I am all the way here in Los Angeles

[chetvd]

Could someone please clarify the date & time when BMW will unveil the M3 at Geneva? Thanks.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by chetvd

Could someone please clarify the date & time when BMW will unveil the M3 at Geneva? Thanks.

The BMW press conference in Geneva is on March 6th 4pm CET. (10am eastern, 7am western)

Best regards, south

[coaster]

FINALLY ... looks like there is gonna be a car after all ... phew!

No offence to the hard core folks, I just hope they don't serve 6 speed manuals for the next 2 years.

SMG/DSG or bust ...

[cncmastr]

Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

Not possible. EVERY M car is about 200lbs heavier than the top of the line series car. Here's a few examples...
Z4 3.0is = 3000lbs, MZ4 = 3200-3300 lbs
550i = 3800 lbs, M5 = 4000lbs
E46 330 = 3200-3300, E46M3 = 3400lbs

Although the M models have some nice light weight materials, you need beefier suspension/brakes/wheels/LSD/Engine/Tranny and everything else I missed so it's going to be a couple hundred pounds heavier than the 335i so you're looking at a 3750-3800lb if history repeats....

Dont forget the seats and headliner.

[Hans Delbruck]

Originally Posted by bmwexecutive

the M3 is going to get crazy press attention on the incredible reviews like no other car can.

Yep.

If you're not on a waiting list yet and want this car, NOW is the time to put your name and deposit down.

[Bemve]

hehe thats why i placed it in July 2006!

[swamp2]

Originally Posted by Hans Delbruck

Yep.

If you're not on a waiting list yet and want this car, NOW is the time to put your name and deposit down.

I would say it is way too late if you are serious. Many dealers have lists 20-30+ deep already. Waiting 6+ months after the first deliveries is waiting waaaaay to long for me.

[positive]

Originally Posted by 03SG///M3

How would i go about purchasing tickets? I might have the opportunity to make it.

All you need to do is go to the URL below, pay for the tickets and print them yourself.

http://www.salon-auto.ch/en/pratiques/ticket.php

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by bmwexecutive

Gotta' say though, that Audi S5 looks pretty nice! Though, if the S5 only undercuts the new M3 by a few grand, I think the market is going to see that most people would rather spend another $3 or $4K for the extra 60-85HP. And YOU KNOW, the M3 is going to get crazy press attention on the incredible reviews like no other car can.

The RS5 will be close behind the S5 with ~420hp and Quattro. Probably heavier, but we'll see.

[SpencerM3]

I can't believe how many U.S. guys are going to the show. Obviously you can make a great trip around Switzerland, IMO one of if not the most beautiful countries in the world, however that is quit a trek to make to see some care,

[Tee-Tom]

Wish BMW had Audi looks. This Bangle stuff just doesn't cut it. It does not stir the blood. Even Benzes look better.
Still a BMW fan inspite of what they look lke

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Tee-Tom

Wish BMW had Audi looks. This Bangle stuff just doesn't cut it. It does not stir the blood. Even Benzes look better.
Still a BMW fan inspite of what they look lke

i think the new 3 looks surprisingly un-bangle. it looks like a natural evolution of the predecessing 3 series.

i like what bangle did with the 7... though its a very avant-garde design.. and very bangle.

hate what he did with the Z4 convertible (though i love the Z4M hardtop). and think the 5 series is too aggressive looking. the 6 series is beautiful, but the trunk lid could have been infinitely better. too bad really. it was one of the only things holding me back from picking up the m6 coupe.

as far as audi goes, the A4 makes me yawn... its uninspired and boring. but the A6 is beautiful.

all in all though. i like bmw's design cues and philosophy more than audi's. and i think the new M3 will really put on display quintessential bmw design philosophy. i can't wait.

[EnI]

I was told M3 Concept will indeed be a M3 CSL - with all CSL lightweight CF parts. Standard M3 will differ from a Concept.

So I guess that means Concept (= CSL) will have CF roof, lightweight boot lid with license plate in bumper, super-light fenders, etc. While standard M3 will come without CF roof, license plate on boot lid etc.

Few more days to go ...

[RandyB]

Originally Posted by GregA

I was told M3 Concept will indeed be a M3 CSL - with all CSL lightweight CF parts. Standard M3 will differ from a Concept.

So I guess that means Concept (= CSL) will have CF roof, lightweight boot lid with license plate in bumper, super-light fenders, etc. While standard M3 will come without CF roof, license plate on boot lid etc.

Few more days to go ...

Sounds good to me!

[ILC32]

Originally Posted by RandyB

Sounds good to me!

Not to me! Based on recent history, it seems unlikely that a CSL will be sold in the US which for me means I will not buy it. So news of exotic parts on the CSL only makes me concerned that the "standard" M3 will in fact be too standard, i.e., not special enough.

[ILC32]

Originally Posted by GregA

I was told M3 Concept will indeed be a M3 CSL - with all CSL lightweight CF parts. Standard M3 will differ from a Concept.

So I guess that means Concept (= CSL) will have CF roof, lightweight boot lid with license plate in bumper, super-light fenders, etc. While standard M3 will come without CF roof, license plate on boot lid etc.

Few more days to go ...

What is the source of this info?

[RandyB]

Originally Posted by ILC32

Not to me! Based on recent history, it seems unlikely that a CSL will be sold in the US which for me means I will not buy it. So news of exotic parts on the CSL only makes me concerned that the "standard" M3 will in fact be too standard, i.e., not special enough.

I just meant the license plate on the boot lid part. I'm not going to sweat 10 lbs for a metal roof over CF - at least I know it will be body color up there.

[ase2dais]

Originally Posted by BK

I need to start saving now for my 2010 M3 sedan.

Good for you Brian !

Im not telling my wife when I start building my piggy bank