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09-29-2009, 09:47 AM | #45 | |
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I think that is a very well thought-out feature, let's face it, on 99.9% of the time the system will never be in use as the stalks automatically cancel themselves after turning but on those rare occasions it doesn't this will remind you. I found the repeater noise on the M3 to be extremely quiet so it's one car that could possibly benefit from such a system. P.S. How did this thread move from discussing the 1/4 mile times and speeds of the CTS-V to indicator reminders, boggles the mind. |
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09-29-2009, 10:35 AM | #46 | |
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09-29-2009, 12:54 PM | #47 | |
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My point is, if GM is trying to make Cadillac young and hip again then there is no reason to keep this feature. Anyone with even the slightest bit of foresight will understand why the feature is in the first place because it is NOT a safety feature. |
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09-29-2009, 01:01 PM | #48 | |
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Bottom line is that it is an "old people feature" not a meaningful safety feature. That's all I can say about that. The CTS-V is a blast to drive but the console is a bit busy for my tastes. For the price though I'd probably take it. PS. Sorry for stereotyping to any older folks here, was just trying to make my point. |
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09-29-2009, 01:17 PM | #49 |
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So you are basically saying that so a feature that is benefical to the elderly. Well let's get rid of ABS, DSP, TC and servo assisted brakes and steering while we're at it because all of these are benefical to the elderly too.
Your logic is boggling me completely. Jaguar like Caddy are trying to appeal to younger drivers but I don't see them getting rid of useful features. |
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09-29-2009, 01:26 PM | #50 |
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My logic is faulty? You just described ESSENTIAL safety features that help in a myriad of situations that actively do something. A chime that tells you that the turn signal is on is NOT AN ESSENTIAL SAFETY FEATURE AT ALL. In fact it didn't even TURN OFF THE SIGNAL.
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09-29-2009, 01:35 PM | #52 | |
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Do you? I know you are trolling because your post history seems to say a lot. So tell us what do you drive? |
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09-29-2009, 01:45 PM | #53 |
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Yet again you fail to describe how it is a helpful feature within my "story". Also, if you are either trolling or arguing it helps to counterpoint in order to reinforce your position. Even though my story may be incomplete I included details of why it chimed and I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings about pointing out such a geriatric feature on an obviously hip and cool car. If you re-read I didn't bash the car, I bashed GM. I know, what was I thinking trying to post an honest opinion these days? Seriously, God bless Florida.
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09-29-2009, 05:28 PM | #54 | |
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And by the way, I see people of any and all age groups leave their signals on. Nowadays it seems there are tons of teenagers and people in their 20s who are texting who do things like this, or damn near anyone who's busy on the damned cell phone. Older folks tend to not use cell phones for any purpose while they drive. "Stigma" indeed. You ought to back off this amazingly nonsensical position. Or keep defending and look like an idiot. Bruce PS - And by the way, you might want to put on a marketing hat and understand that with a 1.8 birthrate, our population continues to age, so anything that might be useful to older folks is probably a Good Thing. I don't actually include the signal warning in that area (because it's clearly useful for anyone), but I notice that a number of vendors (Cadillac included) are using larger, more legible numbers and letters on their instruments and controls, which clearly is a benefit to old folks. Edit: That's another safety feature, by the way. It's more useful to older folks than younger folks in general, because as you age, your ability to rapidly change focus degrades, but it's useful for anyone. And if we're talking Europe, where the average birthrate is down near 1.2 or so, there are even more pronounced marketing opportunities. Last edited by bruce.augenstein@comcast.; 09-29-2009 at 05:56 PM.. |
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My wifes hummer had this. It would remind you but I think it took a while before it would beep at you. Certainly not while merging on an on ramp... at any rate, I don't think it's that cheasy.
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Anyway man, just realize that everyone on the BMW forum is disagreeing with you, you seem to have the losing argument. I rest my case. P.S. GM really stepped it up with this car, and its a crying shame that their performance division went down under shortly after completing the V. Who knows how many other world beaters they could have made. Im excited to see how BMW's gonna retaliate with the new m5, i might have to invest in some mods if its blazin fast. |
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10-08-2009, 09:44 AM | #59 |
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If the X6M acceleration figures are anything to go be then those mods will definitely be in need and even then some.
X6M Test Results: 0 - 30 (sec): 1.7 0 - 45 (sec): 2.9 0 - 60 (sec): 4.3 0 - 75 (sec): 6.4 1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 12.6 0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec): 4.1 30 - 0 (ft): 28 60 - 0 (ft): 107 Braking Rating: Excellent Slalom (mph): 68.6 Skid Pad Lateral acceleration (g): 0.91 I keep reading those figures and still they blow my mind. |
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10-08-2009, 10:48 AM | #60 | |
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I think RS6 Avant vs. X6M would be an interesting matchup. The two are actually not that far apart in curb weight. I'd expect the RS6 to be faster in a straight line, but think the X6M might be the better handler. That's based on a hunch more than first hand experience.
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10-08-2009, 10:59 AM | #62 |
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That means 8:22 which for something weighing 5000lbs is incredible, and after pushing the brother's X6 down a back road I have only praise for those test drivers because the ring is one hell of a bumpy place at times.
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10-08-2009, 11:06 AM | #63 | |
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A more interesting race would be Cayenne Turbo S vs X6M. The figures show the X6M to be quicker but what will the outcome be on up the speed and after experiencing a Cayenne around Porsche's Silverstone centre I can only reckon that lap times would be mighty close. |
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10-08-2009, 11:48 AM | #64 | |
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10-08-2009, 11:54 AM | #65 |
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I think with a simple suspension with coil for 2k and zcp brake upgrade for 700 bucks, the e46 m3 will outlap the x6m on the nur. those are the two huge weakness of the e46 m3 in stock form.
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10-08-2009, 12:45 PM | #66 |
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Brakes aren't the issue you think they are on the ring, sure for something weighing 5000lbs it's a big concern but for something like the E46 M3 a decent set of comp pads and better fluid should do the trick.
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