Went from top of 3rd to 2nd I think in the 6spd...

Nola 32/65 · 04-27-2014, 09:28 PM

So I was at the top of 3rd going into 4th and I don't know what the hell happened but I went to quick shift into 4th and my hand slipped and I think I went into 2nd. I lifted the clutch up and the revs shot up so I pressed the clutch quickly and rolled to the next red light. I also hit the gas at the same time so that could be why the revs shot up too. What my question is, is their any kind of safty system that would protect against the car engaging 2nd fully from the top of 3rd? At the red light the clutch felt a little soft but I hit a parking lot and drove around for a few minutes shifting between 1st-3rd and it seems fine but I just want to know.

Thanks in advanced.

edwinm3 · 04-27-2014, 09:53 PM

If it's running fine then you're good, you almost money shifted it, that's not good. This is another reason why the DCT is better, sorry just had to say it

Nola 32/65 · 04-27-2014, 10:14 PM

I said I think I did because the revs shot up when I missed 4th but like I said that could of just been from me hitting the gas thinking I was in 4th. I know I've been in a gt500 when the guy did go from the top of 3rd to 2nd and the car felt like you hit the brakes and started skidding, I've seen YouTube videos that looked the same. That's not what happen to me though so I wasn't sure, that's why I asked. I've been driving manuals 7-8 years. I'm by no means a professional and I don't claim to be, always willing to learn something new.

Just went on a 25-30min drive shifting and all and everything feels/sounds the same.

Nola 32/65 · 04-27-2014, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Raypan

Should be okay then.. Missed shifts happen even with the best and experienced MT drivers. But you need to be very aware of what gear you are in, before you lift that foot off the clutch.

Yes I definitely agree with that! Ill be taking my "quick" shifts slower from now on until I feel like I have a better feel for this car. We got the car last Nov and its not a daily so I don't have a whole lot of seat time in it especially driving it that hard. Thanks for the info though!

swamp2 · 04-27-2014, 11:26 PM

If you are paranoid about damage (which I agree with others who posted that most likely there is none) any decent tuner can read your ECU log for over revs.

whats77inaname · 04-27-2014, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nola 32/65

What my question is, is there any kind of safety system that would protect against the car engaging 2nd fully from the top of 3rd?

No.

Nola 32/65 · 04-28-2014, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

If you are paranoid about damage (which I agree with others who posted that most likely there is none) any decent tuner can read your ECU log for over revs.

Oh ok, thanks for the advice.

Nola 32/65 · 04-28-2014, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by whats77inaname

No.

Short and direct, I like it lol

BPMSport · 04-28-2014, 12:53 AM

Nothing can stop a mechanical over rev. The control unit can only close the throttles and cut fuel and spark. We can read the freezeframe data, and have seen 8,900 on a few cars that are still running thousands of miles later. Sometimes things don't go downhill right away, but chances are you got lucky if everything seems fine.

lve2xlr8 · 04-28-2014, 01:02 AM

If you're really paranoid do a compression test. Speaking of, how do you do one in this car? Is it possible with the usual simple tools?

to///m · 04-28-2014, 07:56 AM

if its driving fine after the fact like you said, you should be fine... dont stress.

im glad i have a DCT

///mawana · 04-28-2014, 08:06 AM

Well, if you grab the knob, you can't avoid money- (or mis-) shifts.

Erie Von Otto · 04-28-2014, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nola 32/65

What my question is, is their any kind of safty system that would protect against the car engaging 2nd fully from the top of 3rd?

Yes, a DCT.

But, FF to the 2:16 mark...

BPMSport · 04-28-2014, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lve2xlr8

If you're really paranoid do a compression test. Speaking of, how do you do one in this car? Is it possible with the usual simple tools?

I think a leak-down test would be more effective in this instance, since you could pinpoint where the air is leaking from. I doubt the valve is damaged in this instance though.

But yes, compression test would be done the same way as any other car.

Haywood · 04-28-2014, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by edwinm3

If it's running fine then you're good, you almost money shifted it, that's not good. This is another reason why the DCT is better, sorry just had to say it

Haha! The ONLY reason. You should start a thread on this subject. I don't think anyone has.

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