E92 M3 vs M4

[Denk]

I keep trying to run under the teens.

[MPowerZ32]

It's reasonable to expect the next gen M3/4 will be more capable than the current gen. It's what product evolution is all about. With that being said I can't wait for M3/4 release so real comparisons and tests will be conducted.

[Leonardo629]

The next M3/M4 will simply be better, faster, more expensive, and for the first time, lighter....so either you have the money to play or hang onto your V8 since it's still better than 99% of the cars out there.

[pbonsalb]

Hard to beat a car that is 10% lighter, has 10% more horsepower and has 25% more torque. My question is more how to help my E90M3 keep up -- probably need a supercharger for that.

[Ashley Schaeffer BMW]

Originally Posted by Leonardo629

The next M3/M4 will simply be better, faster, more expensive, and for the first time, lighter....so either you have the money to play or hang onto your V8 since it's still better than 99% of the cars out there.

LOL @ all of this.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Hard to beat a car that is 10% lighter, has 10% more horsepower and has 25% more torque. My question is more how to help my E90M3 keep up -- probably need a supercharger for that.

you forgot one thing,

50 to 100% worse engine sound.

[clar]

I expect the E9x M3 to be better in throttle response, steering feel, and sound with the F8x M3/M4 better all else.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by Ezio

you forgot one thing,

50 to 100% worse engine sound.

Agreed, plus BMW has yet to prove to me that their turbo motors are really exciting to drive. Nothing Ive driven with a turbo motor from BMW excited me. The m5/m6 just don't do it for me at all, and if the m3/m4 become smaller versions of those, then I can't see myself driving a car like that, especially seeing some of the other cars coming out.

[bruce.augenstein@comcast.]

Originally Posted by Ezio

you forgot one thing,

50 to 100% worse engine sound.

If the new one sounds like the E46 M3, then agree completely. However, if it sounds like the more traditional sonorous snarl from decades of BMW straight sixes, then to my ears, it'll be neck and neck with the current V8.

Bruce

[MichaelJohn]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

Agreed, plus BMW has yet to prove to me that their turbo motors are really exciting to drive. Nothing Ive driven with a turbo motor from BMW excited me. The m5/m6 just don't do it for me at all, and if the m3/m4 become smaller versions of those, then I can't see myself driving a car like that, especially seeing some of the other cars coming out.

I'm usually on the M5 forum but I couldn't resist commenting on this. When you say that the M5/M6 just don't do it for you does that opinion come from driving them or just not liking the idea of a turbo motor? I have an E92 DCT M3 and an F10 DCT M5 and for me the M5 is plenty exciting...scary exciting. I was worried about losing the instant response and exhaust note of the NA V8 but the forced induction V8 in the M5 is an absolute monster (with zero lag, and I actually like the exhaust sound). It is insanely fast. I love the car so much that the M3 is for sale. If the new M3/M4 turn out to be, as you say, smaller versions of the current M5/M6 then I say that's a good thing.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by MichaelJohn

I'm usually on the M5 forum but I couldn't resist commenting on this. When you say that the M5/M6 just don't do it for you does that opinion come from driving them or just not liking the idea of a turbo motor? I have an E92 DCT M3 and an F10 DCT M5 and for me the M5 is plenty exciting...scary exciting. I was worried about losing the instant response and exhaust note of the NA V8 but the forced induction V8 in the M5 is an absolute monster (with zero lag, and I actually like the exhaust sound). It is insanely fast. I love the car so much that the M3 is for sale. If the new M3/M4 turn out to be, as you say, smaller versions of the current M5/M6 then I say that's a good thing.

Not a fan of their turbo engines and not a fan of the m5/6 themselves. They've become numb and are simply IMO fast sleighs. The m6 I don't see a point to. It handles terribly, is way overpriced and isn't really anything exciting and find the m5 to be much the same. And not a fan of how they sound and they def do have lag.
Granted most of my turbo engine driving experience is with 911 turbos which simply are unfair to compare to but bmw still has yet to prove to me their turbo engines are exciting to drive.
For me, the panamera gts is simply the best driving and most scalpel like sedan out there bar none. It may not be as fast as a few others but is much better to drive without question and sounds infinitely better.

[Maddict3]

Originally Posted by AyooooJay

E92 will beat the F82 hands down

lmfao okayyy

[MMMMM3]

Originally Posted by bruce.augenstein@comcast.

If the new one sounds like the E46 M3, then agree completely. However, if it sounds like the more traditional sonorous snarl from decades of BMW straight sixes, then to my ears, it'll be neck and neck with the current V8.

Bruce

neck and neck = exactly even

traditional sonorous snarl from decades of BMW straight sixes will be exactly even to your ears to the current V8?

Really?

[HuskerFan85]

Originally Posted by Ezio

you forgot one thing,

50 to 100% worse engine sound.

no way... The piped in noise is supposed to be beautiful. I am going to pony up for the optional exotic v12 sound package