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So someone who wants front and rear camera's, iDrive, ventilated a/c seats is a true track junkie?
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09-16-2009, 12:36 AM | #69 | |
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+10000 to the bbk's.
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the m3 is what it is, if you are more luxury guy. go for the isf, if you like the track get the gt3, and if you cant afford that but want a track car with some luxury items , well you already have it , the m3
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Have you driven one?
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Oh and a factory alarm would be nice and definitely some LED tails. And a cool option that I'd probably pay for is like remote start on the DCT's.
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+1 on factory alarm...LED tails coming soon!
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09-16-2009, 08:36 AM | #76 |
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gathering on some other posts --- a club sport option would be cool...
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09-16-2009, 08:52 AM | #77 |
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MDM should be STANDARD. Really pathetic you have to buy the Tech package which opens a new can of worms --- EDC.
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If you know anything about how the M3 started, you'd understand why I'm not a fan of what it's turning into. The M division use to have a "singular vision" of what they were producing. And I don't need to write them a letter because they monitor these boards.
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As for the LED tails, they had it in the last generationg and then took it away, just so they can say, "we made some upgrades mid cycle." Kinda stupid. I agree completely.
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I do think the packaging on the options of the M3, and BMW in general, really suck right now. They remind me of what the cable companies do with channels - package 10 shitty channels with the 1 you want in some obscure package.
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I look at it this way, Im buying a BMW that has a solid price tag on it. I have expectations of whats gonna be in it as a standard. I know im buying a BMW and im gonna enjoy what the R&D has come up with for their new cars.
Yes they wanna keep the car's weight decent enough to make the best out of the engine and handling. but when i find silly things i gotta pay extra for that have already become a standard in most cars it really bothers me. forget about bluetooth and camera and all these gadgets that i personally dont mind having. But i cant forget about MDM and all the other performance options that should come with an M car but dont. Its like they wanna take away your money in any possible way.
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MDM is not only an on/off thing. You have to set the individual settings for the 4 or 5 things that are adjustable in the MDM menu. How would you do that without a GUI like the iDrive screen? You could display it on the instrument cluster LCD but now we're talking about redesigning the whole control system.
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I think it's hard to understand the value of a backup camera unless you've had one. I had one on my IS 350 and, after comfort access, it's the best feature on the car. You can shoehorn your car into the tiniest spaces with a camera because it lets you get your car to within 1/4" of the bumper behind you without hitting anything. It also makes backing out of parking spaces MUCH easier. I think it's a complete abortion of logic that BMWs come with so many other luxury features and miss on something so simple.
I'd also like to see the "dual" feature on climate control. It's silly to have the passenger side at one setting, say 70, while mine is at 63 or 80. Like any other car, I should be able to hit a button and make them sync. The absolute worst feature of this car is the reset of recirc after every start. If I want my air to stay in the car, it should stay in the car. It's annoying to have to switch to recirc every time I get in the car. The same holds true for the shift setting (S5). It defaults to S3. Everything else is fantastic. |
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When there's a problem is when people are too afraid of folding mirrors because it adds weight. This isn't a race car folks. In most cases it's a daily driver. For that reason, it should have amenities. I know a lot of you can't handle the extra 2 oz. of weight a backup camera will add, but it's a useful feature. I'll bet that most of you could either stand to lose a few inches of waist line to compensate for the weight of your amenities, or perhaps washing out some of that hair gel would compensate. |
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M-Mode allows you to adjust the shocks, steering and DSC to a preset combination. I don't need adjustable steering or shocks, but I would like a more forgiving DSC to save my butt in case I screw up. Thank you.
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At least we agree on the packaging. BMW could easily package cars in a way to make both camps happy, mainly by allowing MDM as a stand alone option.
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