Question about 19" track setup

Ca$hOnly · 03-04-2010, 02:01 PM

I bought a set of used 19" VMR wheels with M3 offsets. The two front PS2's are still ok (at least 50% tread left), however the rears need to be replaced. Is it ok to get a different tire for the rear wheels or should they match? Should I sell the fronts and get tires that are better for the track than PS2?

STALKER · 03-04-2010, 02:05 PM

Sell the fronts.
PS2s are not really happy out on track, especially in warm weather. I have found they get greasy after a few laps.
If you are not going with R compounds, go with RE-11s or AD08s.

JC919 · 03-04-2010, 02:08 PM

^great advice

Ca$hOnly · 03-04-2010, 02:28 PM

If I get the RE11 or AD08's should I go with stock 19" tire sizes? I don't want to rub at all, and my car is really low.

STALKER · 03-04-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

If I get the RE11 or AD08's should I go with stock 19" tire sizes? I don't want to rub at all, and my car is really low.

Stock is OK, but if you can get something wider that would be better. Nitto NT05s might be another option.
AD08s and RE-11s come in somewhat limited sizes I find.

Ca$hOnly · 03-08-2010, 06:55 PM

I checked on the AD08 and the best setup looks like 245/35/19 and 275/30/19. I shouldn't have any rubbing issues with this setup correct?

STALKER · 03-08-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

I checked on the AD08 and the best setup looks like 245/35/19 and 275/30/19. I shouldn't have any rubbing issues with this setup correct?

I would use 265/30 and 295/30 for track if you want AD08s.
You will want more rubber up front.
If you want to use the 275/30 out back, at least use a 255 or 265 up front. The 275/30 overall diameter is a bit small also.
Did you decide on the wheels? Max your camber out too, will give you a little more room to play with the tire sizes.

Ca$hOnly · 03-08-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

I would use 265/30 and 295/30 for track if you want AD08s.
You will want more rubber up front.
If you want to use the 275/30 out back, at least use a 255 or 265 up front. The 275/30 overall diameter is a bit small also.
Did you decide on the wheels? Max your camber out too, will give you a little more room to play with the tire sizes.

I bought a used set of VMR V710's. Not sure what the offsets are, but they are for E92 M3. I just want to avoid rubbing at all cost since my car is really low and I don't want to raise the coilovers every time I go to the track. I'm not sure what the camber is set to, but the wheels are leaning in quite a bit right now.

Thanks for all your help man. I'm a track noob so I definitely appreciate it.

STALKER · 03-08-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

I bought a used set of VMR V710's. Not sure what the offsets are, but they are for E92 M3. I just want to avoid rubbing at all cost since my car is really low and I don't want to raise the coilovers every time I go to the track. I'm not sure what the camber is set to, but the wheels are leaning in quite a bit right now.

Thanks for all your help man. I'm a track noob so I definitely appreciate it.

If you know the width and the offsets, it would help.
AD08s do run pretty wide. Great tires though.
NT05s might be another good option, much cheaper and have more sizes I think. 265/30/19 front and 285/30/19 would also work well, check if the NT05s come in those sizes.

mastek · 03-08-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

Sell the fronts.
PS2s are not really happy out on track, especially in warm weather. I have found they get greasy after a few laps.
If you are not going with R compounds, go with RE-11s or AD08s.

Both those are not R-Comps
But the RE11's are def better at the track then PS2's

Tracking with 19" is not favorable for 2 major reasons:
1- Your sidewall is much thinner for the same diameter - less rubber
2- Not many choices for 19" R-Comps

STALKER · 03-08-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mastek

Both those are not R-Comps
But the RE11's are def better at the track then PS2's

Tracking with 19" is not favorable for 2 major reasons:
1- Your sidewall is much thinner for the same diameter - less rubber
2- Not many choices for 19" R-Comps

He is a noob, R compounds might be a bit much.
I think he also has 380MM BBK, so his choice for wheels is limited in 18s.

Ca$hOnly · 03-08-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

If you know the width and the offsets, it would help.
AD08s do run pretty wide. Great tires though.
NT05s might be another good option, much cheaper and have more sizes I think. 265/30/19 front and 285/30/19 would also work well, check if the NT05s come in those sizes.

I checked the wheels and they are 19x8.5 +20 and 19x9.5 +22

I checked on the NT05's and it doesn't look like those sizes are available.

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Originally Posted by mastek

Both those are not R-Comps
But the RE11's are def better at the track then PS2's

Tracking with 19" is not favorable for 2 major reasons:
1- Your sidewall is much thinner for the same diameter - less rubber
2- Not many choices for 19" R-Comps

I agree, however I have a 380mm BBK so 19's were my only low cost option.

mastek · 03-08-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

He is a noob, R compounds might be a bit much.
I think he also has 380MM BBK, so his choice for wheels is limited in 18s.

no -- i know -- it's just your statement said R-Comps -- so I wanted to make sure no one thought RE-11's or AD048's were R-Comps.

All good ... RE-11's - AD048's are great for track 1st timers and some intermediate guys.
I recommend the NT-05's too

PS2's do get greasy tho .. so I would also advise to sell those fronts too.

STALKER · 03-08-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

I checked the wheels and they are 19x8.5 +20 and 19x9.5 +22

I checked on the NT05's and it doesn't look like those sizes are available.

I agree, however I have a 380mm BBK so 19's were my only low cost option.

hmmm, I would maybe use 255/35 and 275/30 then if you wan to go AD08s.
The AD08 sizes suck, I wish they made more sizes.

Ca$hOnly · 03-08-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

hmmm, I would maybe use 255/35 and 275/30 then if you wan to go AD08s.
The AD08 sizes suck, I wish they made more sizes.

OK. I'll go with that setup and post some thoughts after I run them. Thanks.

STALKER · 03-08-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

OK. I'll go with that setup and post some thoughts after I run them. Thanks.

Double check. I don't won't to steer you the wrong way.

OckEME3 · 03-08-2010, 09:00 PM

When and where are you planning on running?

Ca$hOnly · 03-08-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

Double check. I don't won't to steer you the wrong way.

How do I double check? That's the problem, I don't know what sizes to use, that's why I was thinking of just sticking with the stock sizes because I know they will work. I think the ones you mentioned should be fine, but I'm just not sure.

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When and where are you planning on running?

Probably one of the upcoming speed ventures events. There's one this weekend, but I'm not sure I'll be able to make that one. I'll send you a PM when I figure it out.

OckEME3 · 03-08-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

Probably one of the upcoming speed ventures events. There's one this weekend, but I'm not sure I'll be able to make that one. I'll send you a PM when I figure it out.

Cool! I'm ready to go again, it's addicting. Dude the Akra exhaust sounds so sick at the track, I drove behind SARD and it was music to my ears.

MrHarris · 03-08-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

If I get the RE11 or AD08's should I go with stock 19" tire sizes? I don't want to rub at all, and my car is really low.

What are your wheel size/offsets?

I'm running AD08's and I know exactly what will fit and what will not fit depending on offsets.

STALKER · 03-08-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

How do I double check? That's the problem, I don't know what sizes to use, that's why I was thinking of just sticking with the stock sizes because I know they will work. I think the ones you mentioned should be fine, but I'm just not sure.

Probably one of the upcoming speed ventures events. There's one this weekend, but I'm not sure I'll be able to make that one. I'll send you a PM when I figure it out.

Im 90% sure that will fit your wheels just fine and give you the balance you are looking for. Your wheels are not ideal sizes, but you gotta work with what you got.
Let a few more members chime in, just to double check.
Good luck.

Ca$hOnly · 03-08-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrHarris

What are your wheel size/offsets?

I'm running AD08's and I know exactly what will fit and what will not fit depending on offsets.

19x8.5 +20
19x9.5 +22

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Ca$hOnly Major 47 Rep 1,077 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: In ur fridge, eatin ur foodz iTrader: (5)	If I get the RE11 or AD08's should I go with stock 19" tire sizes? I don't want to rub at all, and my car is really low. __________________
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