Buying cpo m3 2008 from different province

C.junior · 12-12-2012, 10:02 PM

So I'm in Toronto and there is a m3 in Montreal from BMW its cpo with
70 000km on the car
Would you buy it with out looking at it in person?
Any tips on what I should do? Or ask for I'm ready to put a deposit

positiveions · 12-12-2012, 10:15 PM

I wouldn't buy it without looking at it. Go and check it out, or have someone do an inspection from out of state.

C.junior · 12-12-2012, 10:18 PM

No no one I no to do inspection but I have to trade my current car in so should I drive my car down and drive the m back or trust the sales rep saying its mint condition just hood has some chips and they will be repainting it

Also I heard Montreal cars are beat up??

positiveions · 12-12-2012, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by C.junior

No no one I no to do inspection but I have to trade my current car in so should I drive my car down and drive the m back or trust the sales rep saying its mint condition just hood has some chips and they will be repainting it

Also I heard Montreal cars are beat up??

well, take a drive. Rather loose gas, than a whole of chunk of money.
Well obviously, all the snow and loose gravel will take a toll on the car.

Chriskm3 · 12-12-2012, 10:47 PM

I've been promised a quality used car in Detroit. Drove down. Massive disappointment. Time well wasted but at least I did not loose any cash. If the deal is worth your ti,e go check it out. Do not trust anyone to provide an honest opinion as it is just their opinion.

Prince_of_Persia · 12-12-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by C.junior

No no one I no to do inspection but I have to trade my current car in so should I drive my car down and drive the m back or trust the sales rep saying its mint condition just hood has some chips and they will be repainting it

Also I heard Montreal cars are beat up??

I would NOT buy an M3 without seeing it in person. Just drive there yourself and test drive it, you will have a peace of mind!

Also I heard the same thing about cars in Quebec.

py0413 · 12-12-2012, 11:13 PM

any cars would be in "mint" condition especially when you hear them from a sales rep. If you have to buy that one, at least see it in person first.

GewoW · 12-12-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by C.junior

No no one I no to do inspection but I have to trade my current car in so should I drive my car down and drive the m back or trust the sales rep saying its mint condition just hood has some chips and they will be repainting it

Also I heard Montreal cars are beat up??

who's the sales rep and which dealer. a 70K M3 is a bit KM heavy especially if driven in winter. Likely 3 seasons....which is quite a bit of salt and grime. If this was a lease, i would be more likely to believe they did not take care of the car as well. Also, our roads here are garbage...u need some massive obstacle course skills to drive around. Story of my life, but someone on a leased car....idk if they would care as much.

BMWNTHZST · 12-13-2012, 08:14 AM

I've purchased my last 3 BMW's from out West without seeing them in person.
Having said that my sales person knows me fairly well and what I expect in a car. So far I haven't regreted it!

Good luck!

BMWSpeedFreek · 12-18-2012, 08:27 AM

Having lived in Quebec and seen the potholes, salt, slush, etc, I would strongly reiterate GWow's comments - you need to see the underbody, rims, etc, and see how it drives (now, before the roads turn to crap again).

Also, buying a CPO from a BMW dealership is no guarantee that the car hasn't had an unreported accident. So get a CARFAX as well (I know, there are issues with Carfax as well...)... Ask me how I know with my first M5 purchase from a dealer in Vancouver...

I suggest you take the wife/gf (not both) for a weekend at Mt Tremblant and just stop in for a look-see...I am pretty certain the weekend won't be a waste, whether you end up buying the car or not...

GL!

mofbb · 12-18-2012, 08:37 AM

Unless its a new car , otherwise i must test drive before i buy it.

bga23 · 12-18-2012, 09:31 AM

I've bought several cars which were located in different US states and each time I flew out to inspect the car. It is my money so I want to see what I am buying with it, wouldn't buy a used car sight unseen.

Mr. ///M3 RD · 12-18-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by C.junior

So I'm in Toronto and there is a m3 in Montreal from BMW its cpo with
70 000km on the car
Would you buy it with out looking at it in person?
Any tips on what I should do? Or ask for I'm ready to put a deposit

We have a Montreal member here perhaps he can have a look at the car for you. If it is a BMW dealership ad it is a certified car you have nothing to worry about (read the "Certified" section on there Web Site).

In either case if the car is certified or not get all of the reports before you decide to look at the car or not. Milage seams very high.

Good luck.

PS. I'll check for the handle of the Montreal member and let you know so you may contact him.

There are several Montreal Members ... (let us know if you need help to contact them). I'm sure one of them will help you out to look at the car.

I would send a PM to montreal red ... you find a post of his here No. 13 in this thread ----> Click here to fo to the thread

exmowner · 12-18-2012, 10:11 AM

Hi first not all cars from Montreal are in bad condition. I have a 09 m3 that has 20,000kms and I haven’t hit one pot hole and the rims are like new. Yes if your carless and don’t pay attention you will destroy the car but most of the people with 50k + cars tend to take good care of their cars. Also I don’t drive it in the winter so maybe this car your interested in was only summer driven as well. I have a close friend with a 08 e92 and he has 110,000 kms and the car still drives strong and other then leather seat wear is in great condition, so don’t worry about higher kms. Not all m3's are garage queens and not all of us can afford or care to have a second car. If the service records are available and oil changes were at least within 10000kms intervals then I would go for it. I'm guessing the price is great given the season.

Is this car your interested in at bmw west island by any chance? I'm going to bring my girl friend's x3 in for an oil change I can take a look for you.

Thanks
Alex

WRXXX · 12-18-2012, 04:58 PM

To OP, what is so hard about driving 6hrs to see something which you will dump a lot of money into? Just make it a weekend holiday trip. Food and chicks in Montreal are way better then in TO anyways

halojereme · 12-18-2012, 07:50 PM

Time well wasted but at least I did not loose any cash.

bing240sx · 12-20-2012, 08:20 AM

talk to your local dealer about doing a dealer trade with them so that you can buy the CPO car through a local dealer.

also, carfax has very limited information on Canadian vehicles because CARPROOF has exclusivity on most of the major data sources. CARPROOF is the only report you need on a canadian car unless it was imported from the states.

many dealers know this and will give you the lesser report. I had a used car dealer give me a clean carproof on a US car. I advised that if it is an American car that carproof was useless and then he told me it has one accident and an odometer issue on the carfax. this was last year.

with regard to Quebec, everything is shady over there (relatively speaking). do not buy it sight unseen. if they know you are never coming back for service or to buy another car they will have little motivation to be truthful and honest with you.. especially an anglophone.

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C.junior Private First Class 24 Rep 186 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2012 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	No no one I no to do inspection but I have to trade my current car in so should I drive my car down and drive the m back or trust the sales rep saying its mint condition just hood has some chips and they will be repainting it Also I heard Montreal cars are beat up??
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Chriskm3 Colonel 59 Rep 2,186 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (4)	I've been promised a quality used car in Detroit. Drove down. Massive disappointment. Time well wasted but at least I did not loose any cash. If the deal is worth your ti,e go check it out. Do not trust anyone to provide an honest opinion as it is just their opinion.
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py0413 Major 110 Rep 1,291 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: BC iTrader: (2)	any cars would be in "mint" condition especially when you hear them from a sales rep. If you have to buy that one, at least see it in person first. __________________ Must stop eating..............
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exmowner Major 658 Rep 1,496 Posts Drives: 22 M3X / 14 GTR Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hallandale Beach FL iTrader: (7)	Hi first not all cars from Montreal are in bad condition. I have a 09 m3 that has 20,000kms and I haven’t hit one pot hole and the rims are like new. Yes if your carless and don’t pay attention you will destroy the car but most of the people with 50k + cars tend to take good care of their cars. Also I don’t drive it in the winter so maybe this car your interested in was only summer driven as well. I have a close friend with a 08 e92 and he has 110,000 kms and the car still drives strong and other then leather seat wear is in great condition, so don’t worry about higher kms. Not all m3's are garage queens and not all of us can afford or care to have a second car. If the service records are available and oil changes were at least within 10000kms intervals then I would go for it. I'm guessing the price is great given the season. Is this car your interested in at bmw west island by any chance? I'm going to bring my girl friend's x3 in for an oil change I can take a look for you. Thanks Alex __________________ 2022-G80 Xdrive BG 2014-GTR BE FBO 2016-HURACAN 610-4 (SOLD) 2021-G82 BASE (SOLD) Last edited by exmowner; 12-18-2012 at 10:16 AM..
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WRXXX First Lieutenant 43 Rep 303 Posts Drives: E92 SG M3 (SOLD), '17 M2 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	To OP, what is so hard about driving 6hrs to see something which you will dump a lot of money into? Just make it a weekend holiday trip. Food and chicks in Montreal are way better then in TO anyways
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bing240sx Captain 121 Rep 681 Posts Drives: F87 M2C /// E90 M3 ESS-VT2 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	talk to your local dealer about doing a dealer trade with them so that you can buy the CPO car through a local dealer. also, carfax has very limited information on Canadian vehicles because CARPROOF has exclusivity on most of the major data sources. CARPROOF is the only report you need on a canadian car unless it was imported from the states. many dealers know this and will give you the lesser report. I had a used car dealer give me a clean carproof on a US car. I advised that if it is an American car that carproof was useless and then he told me it has one accident and an odometer issue on the carfax. this was last year. with regard to Quebec, everything is shady over there (relatively speaking). do not buy it sight unseen. if they know you are never coming back for service or to buy another car they will have little motivation to be truthful and honest with you.. especially an anglophone.
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