so... all thats left is to wait for Euro launch?

[m_bazeepaymon]

Do i need to repeat the title? lol

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by m_bazeepaymon

Do i need to repeat the title? lol

Well, sometime soon European mags should get cars to submit to more thorough tests. Followed, sometime later by the US mags turn. That will give us a little more than the "impressions" and limited data collected so far.

[nechronics]

too long for sanity's sake i'm afraid

[SS32]

too true

[m_bazeepaymon]

... hopefully we can get more info on US delivery/ pricing in september...

[lucid]

In case you guys aren't following the ordering/tracking page, someone just returned from SC BMW driving school and says his instructor told him base M3 will be priced at $62k.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78792

[Epacy]

Originally Posted by lucid

In case you guys aren't following the ordering/tracking page, someone just returned from SC BMW driving school and says his instructor told him base M3 will be priced at $62k.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78792

I won't allow myself to believe it. If I don't, doesn't that mean it won't be true?

That would be a 26.7% increase.
Can't be true.

[lucid]

Originally Posted by Epacy

I won't allow myself to believe it. If I don't, doesn't that mean it won't be true?

That would be a 26.7% increase.
Can't be true.

Mind over matter man! If you try hard enough, who knows?

European and other markets have experienced a similar hike in the M3 price, so why shouldn't the US market? And the car mags have raised their estimates in the past couple of months; they must have heard something...

I am not saying it makes a whole lot of sense, but I think it is entirely possible.

[Epacy]

Here's hoping for no gas guzzler tax. Need some relief to fit all the options in under $70k.

[JEllis]

An instructor at BMW driving school in SC?

Doesnt sound very reliable to me....

Jason

[lucid]

Originally Posted by JEllis

An instructor at BMW driving school in SC?

Doesnt sound very reliable to me....

Jason

The instructor claims he's seen documents although he wasn't willing to provide them--not a matter of his opinion. Unless he is simply lying, which I guess is possible, this might be pretty solid...

[lucid]

Originally Posted by Epacy

Here's hoping for no gas guzzler tax. Need some relief to fit all the options in under $70k.

Will you part with the Pearl Bliss?

[///MML]

Customers in Europe will not receive cars until after Frankfurt motor show (sept 15th) which is the official launch. So in about 4 weeks we should get customer impressions. Hopefully we will get MDCT 3/08 confirmation at the show. North America production should start 12/07 so allocations/options/pricing should be in Sept/Oct.

[Epacy]

Originally Posted by lucid

Will you part with the Pearl Bliss?

Nope, DD.

[Epacy]

Originally Posted by ///MML

North America production should start 12/07 so allocations/options/pricing should be in Sept/Oct.

I posed a question awhile back about if the US pricing will be released before the Motor Show. Didn't get much action.

When would be the most reasonable time?

[swiss_cornholio]

Originally Posted by Epacy

I posed a question awhile back about if the US pricing will be released before the Motor Show. Didn't get much action.

When would be the most reasonable time?

European pricing was released in June (i.e. 3 months before shipping). Maybe it's similar for the US.

[MI6]

Originally Posted by m_bazeepaymon

Do i need to repeat the title? lol

No need to repeat- just wait patiently and rob a few banks while your at it- cuz' this M3 is going to be eeeeeeeeeexpensive........

The thing sounds sooooo good- like a damn Ferrari on crack....

This can't be good for your bank account.........

[aerisolphaln]

Originally Posted by Epacy

Here's hoping for no gas guzzler tax. Need some relief to fit all the options in under $70k.

I doubt you'll get into the e92 M3 for less than 70.

If US base is $62 (and I think it could be higher), you have to add tax, title, registration, AND gas guzzler (no WAY this M3 will not have this tax) BEFORE you start throwing in options.

Realistic option list: 19" wheels, EDC, MDrive (which I think forces you to take I-Drive), M-DCT, Stereo - That's over 10 grand in BMW options.

Next thing you know, 2008 M3 - $74,000 US.

Thanks for shopping.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by lucid

The instructor claims he's seen documents although he wasn't willing to provide them--not a matter of his opinion. Unless he is simply lying, which I guess is possible, this might be pretty solid...

You know what, and I have no reason at this point to doubt what Lucid is saying, mags are saying similar things. If 62 k is base, add a stiff gaz guzzler tax and the M3 will be overpriced. IMO, if any kind of objectivity is used in regards to performance per dollar, at that price, the bloated M3 would be considered highway robbery and I would have to be an idiot to buy it over a 335 for a GT type car. You are looking at well over 70k for an M3 nicely optioned, out the door. Remember this is a 3 series not a 5 or 6 series. You can get a sports package equipped Euro delivery 335 for well north of 20 k less, or smarter yet, a 135 for even better performance, less weight and less money. How about a Cayman S that will destroy a bloated M3 in all aspects of efficient driving dynamics and it actually comes equipped with real track brakes that won't fade after a lap or two. I bet the lowly 135 multi piston brakes fade less than the M3. It just goes to show you that BMW intended the M3 for GT touring only and the 135 for real track use. With the M3, BMW simply made the decision to build a cheaper version of the 6 series. Now days the M division is all about selling cars and making money I thought that was suppose to be BMW's job not the mighty M. Looks like for M, the only bastion left for motor sport is the CSL and if history is a guide it won't even be offered in the states.

[Epacy]

Originally Posted by ruff

You know what, and I have no reason at this point to doubt what Lucid is saying, mags are saying similar things. If 62 k is base, add a stiff gaz guzzler tax and the M3 will be overpriced. IMO, if any kind of objectivity is used in regards to performance per dollar at that price the bloated M3 would be considered highway robbery and I would have to be an idiot to buy it over a 335 for a GT type car. You are looking at well over 70k for an M3 nicely optioned, out the door. Remember this is a 3 series not a 5 or 6 series. You can get a sports package equipped Euro delivery 335 for well north of 20 k less, or smarter yet, a 135 for even better performance and less money. How about a Cayman S that will destroy a bloated M3 in all aspects of efficient driving dynamics and it actually comes equipped with real track brakes that won't fade after a lap or two on the track. I bet the lowly 135 multi piston brakes fade less than the M3. It just goes to show you that BMW intended the M3 for GT touring only and the 135 for real track use. With the M3, BMW simply made the decision to build a cheaper version of the 6 series. Now the M division is all about selling cars and making money that was suppose to be BMW's job not the M. Looks like for M, the only bastion left for motor sport is the CSL and if history is a guide it won't even be offered in the states.

And how much are you saying an optioned Cayman S would cost?

[ILC32]

Originally Posted by Epacy

And how much are you saying an optioned Cayman S would cost?

Don't let facts get in the way of an argument.

[ruff]

Originally Posted by Epacy

And how much are you saying an optioned Cayman S would cost?

I have stated a number of times the Cayman S is underpowered and over priced. However, IMO, it is Porsches best pure handling car which places it in the top tier of handling cars in the world, at any price. Waiting for DFI and the facelift before making a decision. Porsche usually doesn't do much of a price hike with facelifts but who knows. Not sure if your question is sarcastic, so I will answer it as if it wasn't. You can get the current Cayman S for about the same money before discount as projected figures of the M3. It all comes down to what car you want. GT with gobs of intoxicating power or a feather weight ultra handling sports car.