Best Test/Track Pipes?

M3Carbon · 03-11-2013, 08:41 AM

MS, Turner, ACM, etc? Dyno #'s, build quality, other subject comments ....what separates these pipes?

Lalit@autocouture · 03-11-2013, 09:11 AM

I'd say ours are pretty good

pbonsalb · 03-11-2013, 09:36 AM

I doubt very much. 2 feet of pipe with a curve and flange on one end is not rocket science. Buy the ones that are the cheapest. There was a package deal with a tune a while ago.

Ashley Schaeffer BMW · 03-11-2013, 10:25 AM

lol theres only so much you can do with test pipes

coogs08 · 03-11-2013, 10:27 AM

What pbonsalb said, any of the major manufacturers will make a good product, the main concern would be the quality of the welds and clamps. I'm sure they're all very similar in this regard so just get the cheapest ones. I just picked up a slightly used set of MS ones last week on the forum.

As I'm sure you know, after deleting the cats the car will throw a code for increased emissions. You can purchase something like the akra delete-r which will just remove the code, or you can go with a full ECU tune. Check out this link:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=767475

You can get the best of both worlds and probably gain >30 hp to the wheels

Chriskm3 · 03-11-2013, 10:34 AM

The tune is more important with Test test pipes. Proven 30 hp increase

maesd74 · 03-11-2013, 07:30 PM

I have Turner's...A) because my cousin (bike racer and m3 enthusiast) is sponsored by them, and B) because they were $350 on sale.

They all do the same thing and are all quality products (given the brands you listed).

Either way, you'll enjoy the increased power with the minimal cost.

M3Carbon · 03-11-2013, 09:20 PM

Thanks all. Sounds like its a subjective call, primarily based on cost. Still having fun building my "wish list".

dmk08 · 03-11-2013, 09:32 PM

Turners are $100 cheaper than MS. Every Turner part I've put on my car has been quality thus far.

ACM has a combo w/ ESS tune in the vendors section I think.

IMG · 03-11-2013, 10:40 PM

Seen the ACM test pipes and they look great and the weld is perfect.

Sal@AUTOcouture · 03-12-2013, 09:15 AM

Currently still running our promotion of $379 for the pipes, $1279 with ESS tune

tom @ eas · 03-12-2013, 11:29 AM

Here's a quick shot of Macht Schnell Bypass Track Pipes ready to be mated with the Akrapovic Slip-On exhaust:

OP: Feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

kwike92 · 03-12-2013, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I doubt very much. 2 feet of pipe with a curve and flange on one end is not rocket science. Buy the ones that are the cheapest. There was a package deal with a tune a while ago.

+1

M3Carbon · 03-12-2013, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Here's a quick shot of Macht Schnell Bypass Track Pipes ready to be mated with the Akrapovic Slip-On exhaust:

OP: Feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

Solid pic...must be a fun place to work.

BMWJ · 03-12-2013, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Here's a quick shot of Macht Schnell Bypass Track Pipes ready to be mated with the Akrapovic Slip-On exhaust:

OP: Feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

definitely worth more money since they are pictured next to Akra... buy these ones

aus · 03-12-2013, 06:05 PM

Any of the test pipes able to clamp the original cats back up for smog testing, and then swapping back to the test pipe?
Most seem to cut the stock pipe pretty close to the cat and I'm not sure there's enough tubing on the stock piece to clamp back on.

tom @ eas · 03-12-2013, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus

Any of the test pipes able to clamp the original cats back up for smog testing, and then swapping back to the test pipe?
Most seem to cut the stock pipe pretty close to the cat and I'm not sure there's enough tubing on the stock piece to clamp back on.

That's pretty much it, there's not much metal to clamp back onto without welding.

We do have a number of stock X-pipes if you should need a loaner.

Orange fever · 03-12-2013, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

That's pretty much it, there's not much metal to clamp back onto without welding.

We do have a number of stock X-pipes if you should need a loaner.

Macht Schnell Bypass Track Pipes and a loaner for smog test...

happyg512 · 03-12-2013, 08:19 PM

I just wanted to add this for completeness regarding the question above - Any of the test pipes able to clamp the original cats back up for smog testing, and then swapping back to the test pipe?

Stubbies http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...rke+emmissions

Rho_e90 · 03-12-2013, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalit@AUTOcouture

I'd say ours are pretty good

Just got AUTOcouture test pipe installed yesterday and I must say I am impressed. This along with their OEM mod exhaust equals an intoxicating sound!

+1 for Autocoture

Dave07997S · 03-12-2013, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus

Any of the test pipes able to clamp the original cats back up for smog testing, and then swapping back to the test pipe?
Most seem to cut the stock pipe pretty close to the cat and I'm not sure there's enough tubing on the stock piece to clamp back on.

Aus, I have seen a few that were re-welded. If it is a good clean cut with a good welder I doubt anyone would be hard pressed to tell you had the xpipe cut.

I'm lucky found a used one for $150 awhile back and cut that one up while keeping the one that came on the car.

Dave

dtmwerksm3 · 03-12-2013, 10:28 PM

I love my Turners, but any of the manufactures are gonna be a good choice they all make quality products.

Highly recommend an ESS tune as well, you won't be disappointed.

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coogs08 Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 264 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pearland, TX iTrader: (3)	What pbonsalb said, any of the major manufacturers will make a good product, the main concern would be the quality of the welds and clamps. I'm sure they're all very similar in this regard so just get the cheapest ones. I just picked up a slightly used set of MS ones last week on the forum. As I'm sure you know, after deleting the cats the car will throw a code for increased emissions. You can purchase something like the akra delete-r which will just remove the code, or you can go with a full ECU tune. Check out this link: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=767475 You can get the best of both worlds and probably gain >30 hp to the wheels
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maesd74 Private 9 Rep 63 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 sedan comp package Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	I have Turner's...A) because my cousin (bike racer and m3 enthusiast) is sponsored by them, and B) because they were $350 on sale. They all do the same thing and are all quality products (given the brands you listed). Either way, you'll enjoy the increased power with the minimal cost.
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M3Carbon Captain 34 Rep 752 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M3, AW/FRE Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: DC iTrader: (1)	Thanks all. Sounds like its a subjective call, primarily based on cost. Still having fun building my "wish list". __________________ Instagram @m3carbon
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dmk08 Gone Fishin’ 7318 Rep 12,125 Posts Drives: Walks Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (19)	Turners are $100 cheaper than MS. Every Turner part I've put on my car has been quality thus far. ACM has a combo w/ ESS tune in the vendors section I think.
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