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12-24-2007, 03:36 PM | #67 |
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On a more serious note...it looks like some of the RS4 fanboys on the Audi forums still cannot believe that the M3 was faster on the track than their beloved RS4. How shocking!
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What were they expecting? This was boldly predicted here well before the M3 came out. Did you guys see the RS4 understeer into the weeds in the video? The RS4 can't even beat the CL63 around a track....how sad is that?
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Not that sad, really. The Mercedes boys have had a couple more years to perfect their car, so it's hardly surprising. To be honest, though, half a second around that track is hardly conclusive. I figure that with a bit more practice in the Audi, the Stig could have improved on his lap time by compensating for the understeer more than he could have in the Merc, which, although an awesome car, is a bit too much of an over powered brute.
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I don't like it when people can't give a little credit to the competition. The M3 has always been an icon...i really don't know what they were expecting. Sad. On the other hand...the MB guys are not surprised at all that the C63 lost at the track. They just weren't expecting THAT MUCH of a beating....
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The Stig does numerous laps before the real deal. BTW, in the Sport Auto and EVO test, the M3 beat the C63 again by 3-4 seconds difference. So yes, I think it's pretty conclusive.
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Well a lot of M's are wasted then.. Like I said its probably 1 out of 100 cars hits the track. And a drag strip does not count as track time.
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Is this based on your scientific poll or are you just making stuff up to justify that you bought a nicely tuned car only to waste it on the parking lots at racetracks. Assuming you don't have any statistical samples to back up your assertion, the morale of the story is the M car is balanced and tuned from the factory. Sell your E46 M3 SMG2 and trade it in for a nice 328i 6MT. Leave the M cars for enthusiasts.
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anyone care to explain cock o meter?
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Agreed. Although to be honest, I'd personally never take my cars to the track . I can't drive on the streets as is.
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And just to piss you off I am going to get another one. Street cars are just plain horrible for the track. Go to the M3 forum and do a search on how many owners track their cars. |
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12-24-2007, 06:43 PM | #78 |
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Most M3 drivers are younger under 30.. So he calls the younger folks cocks since apparently we are cocky to have an expensive car. If you look around most M3 owners are under 30 and a large portion are cocks who cant respect others who never want to take the car on the track.
I also consider myself an M enthusiast my family has had ever 3 series M car since the E30 including 2 E46 M3's. My father also used to have a track prepped E30 M3. Keep racing to track prepped cars not to fast street cars. |
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"Cock" as they use it has no direct synonym in the states, but is pretty well defined with the following words:
tool, idiot, loser, prick, ass, yuppie, poser.... anyone care to add to this list? That pretty much sums up most modern M3 owners. And everyone else that buys one has to unfortunately live with that image. Same thing applies to most 3-series owners in general because it is the cheap entry level BMW, but it is a small price to pay I feel. |
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And track cars are terrible for the street What's your point? Other than Porsche, no other company makes a car that is at home on both the track and the street. It is fine to debate whether M owners track their car or not but neither one of us has the data to firm up a real number but your claims of 1 / 100 are absurd. Just admit the M3 is a great all-round package that is great for street and occasional track use. Much better than the C63 or the RS4.
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That's one good thing about the RS4. It's a much more "low profile" car. |
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I was hellbent on getting the C63 when my lease expires next year but I'm starting to give the M3 a more open-minded look.
I'm the kind of guy who likes a fast car but handling is important as well. The M3 really comes off as balanced. |
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This little quarrel is over no more needs to be said. I will do what I want to do with my car and you do what you want.. |
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Ooooo, thanks for the explanation.
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