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06-10-2010, 06:13 AM | #23 |
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I don't have it and don't miss it at all.... I don't care for the ability to turn traction control only half way off. I saved the extra money and used if for some aftermarket mods. Plus I think the single hump dash looks much cleaner.
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The only thing I'd want is MDM so I can half ass it with DSC off before actually turning it off completely on the track. It seems to allow a lot of slip before kicking in.
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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06-10-2010, 02:38 PM | #26 |
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06-16-2010, 02:44 PM | #27 |
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I am a ways away from ordering, but I'm still torn on ZCP and ZTP. For me, the E90 would do it all (short of the bad weather/family trip car), including taking my kids to daycare daily and being the fun car (in suburban Boston roads, so not great).
My primary concern is that if I buy this car, I plan on keeping it forever. I fear the tech and ZCP packages just mean more things to fix out of warranty years from now. How reliable has CA, EDC I could care less about NAV. CA is cool and perhaps very handy with little kids to load and unload twice a day. EDC could be helpful if the comfort setting is more comfortable than the regular shocks. I have no clue what MDM does but seems neat. |
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06-16-2010, 02:58 PM | #28 |
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Why? Because you will later think "I should have added ZTP", but at that point there's no retrofitting. Of course, even if you do get it and don't like it, you don't have to use it.
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ZTP was 100% required for me... it can't be retrofitted, you buy a new M3 because of the new improvements, why pass it up? Mdrive, EDC, Nav, updated iDrive and Stereo. ZCP is easily retrofitted and more customizable. Get some great springs, custom wheels and software update.
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If you are going to keep the vehicle 5+ years DO NOT get the nav. Navs do date the vehicle. I still love the e46 M3, but when I see one with the Nav It truly makes the vehicle feel older. If its a lease then get the tech package. |
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06-16-2010, 03:53 PM | #31 |
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06-17-2010, 01:34 PM | #32 |
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Going 5 years without a very useful option just because it will look dated in the sixth year is a pretty weak argument. Personally, I'll never drive a BMW outside the warranty period, but to each his own.
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06-18-2010, 03:03 AM | #33 | |
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Just because you HAVE CA doesn't mean you have to use it. Other than sensors in the door handles and different batteries in the fobs it's not very different from cars without CA. What on ZCP do you think will break? EDC is available without ZCP as well so I don't see where you're going with that one either. Basically, if you don't want them, don't get them but neither should be a "problem child." |
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07-02-2014, 08:34 AM | #34 |
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Guys have a question, currently looking at a 2011 M3 and I don't believe it had the Tech package, but it does have Comfort Access. Was that offered as a standalone option in 2011? Below is the list, am i missing something?
Code Description (interface) Description (EPC) S1CAA SELEKTION COP RELEVANTER FAHRZEUGE Selection of COP-relevant vehicles S1CCA AUTO START STOP FUNKTION Auto start/stop function S2MDA M DRIVE M Drive S2VBA REIFENDRUCKANZEIGE Tyre pressure display S302A ALARMANLAGE Alarm system S322A KOMFORTZUGANG Comfort access S415A SONNENSCHUTZROLLO FUER HECKSCHEIBE Sun-blind, rear S441A RAUCHERPAKET Smoker package S490A LEHNENBREITENVERSTELLUNG Adjustment, seat-backrest width S4AEA ARMAUFLAGE VORNE VERSCHIEBBAR Armrest front, retractable S4MYA INT.LEIST. LEDER CARBONSTR. SCHWARZ Int.trim,leather,carbon struct.,black S507A PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC), rear S521A REGENSENSOR Rain sensor S563A LICHTPAKET Light package S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Navigation system Professional S615A ERWEITERTE BMW ONLINE INFORMATION Extended BMW Online Information S616A BMW ONLINE BMW Online S620A SPRACHEINGABESYSTEM Voice control S639A KOMPLETTVORB. HANDY USA/CDN Preparation f mobile phone cpl. USA/CDN S655A SATELLITENTUNER Satellite tuner S697A AREA-CODE 1 Area-Code 1 for DVD S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW TeleServices S6ABA STEUERUNG TELESERVICES Control, Teleservices S6FLA USB-AUDIO-SCHNITTSTELLE USB/audio interface S6NFA MUSIC-SCHNITTSTELLE FUER SMARTPHONE Music interface for Smartphone S6NRA APPS Apps S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION Traffic Information S6VCA STEUERUNG COMBOX Control, Combox S752A INDIVIDUAL AUDIOSYSTEM Individual audio system S760A INDIVIDUAL HOCHGLANZ SHADOW LINE High gloss shadow line S8SCA LAENDERSPEZ. TELESERVICEFREISCH. Telematics access request,country-spec. S8SPA COP STEUERUNG Control unit COP S8TLA TAGFAHRLICHT FRONT UND HECK AKTIV Dummy-SALAPA S8TNA TAGFAHRLICHT UEBER LICHTMENUE EINST Dummy-SALAPA S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Dispatch protection pack S431A INNENSPIEGEL,AUTOMATISCH ABBLENDEND Interior mirror with automatic-dip S522A XENON-LICHT Xenon Light S524A ADAPTIVES KURVENLICHT Adaptive Headlights S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning S540A GESCHWINDIGKEITSREGELUNG Cruise control S5DSA KOFFERRAUMNOTENTRIEGELUNG Emergency release, luggage compartment S645A RADIO-STEUERUNG US BMW US Radio S775A INDIVIDUAL DACHHIMMEL ANTHRAZIT Headlining anthracite S845A AKUSTISCHE GURTWARNUNG Acoustic fasten seat belt reminder S853A SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH Language version, English S876A FUNKFREQUENZ 315 MHZ Radio frequency 315 MHz
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^ that car has nav
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07-02-2014, 06:04 PM | #36 |
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The tech package was replaced by the convenience package (ZCV) in MY 2011+. M Drive became standard in 2011 as well.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/07/14/se...es-in-the-u-s/ |
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I recently traded my '09 without tech package for a loaded '13. Not having those tech options was the biggest reason I made that choice. Of course, I love the e92 overall and there were other factors involved. But it's like a completely different car if you're into the techie stuff. I use those options a lot, every single one of them.
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I dunno, on a car like this, I sort of thing the "get every option possible" mentality ultimately nets out to the best car.
EDC... tech... cold weather... extended leather... nav (even though it stinks)... it's all awesome. I got mine used so someone else paid the premium, then I looked for one with everything. |
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07-02-2014, 08:38 PM | #41 |
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I LOL at all the "M" button crap here. Who needs outdated NAvi and M buttons, EDC??
I have coilovers and an adjustable right foot that controls the go pedal. |
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That implies you want to own the same car long-term. Why would you want that with a turbo motor? Lease that shit once residuals get better and swap it for a new one every couple of years.
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