Technology Package, Why???

[J08M3]

I don't have it and don't miss it at all.... I don't care for the ability to turn traction control only half way off. I saved the extra money and used if for some aftermarket mods. Plus I think the single hump dash looks much cleaner.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by dimabimmer

there is nothing like pressing that botton and feeling the whole car getting tighter right under your thumb

that's what she said

[aus]

Originally Posted by J08M3

I don't have it and don't miss it at all.... I don't care for the ability to turn traction control only half way off. I saved the extra money and used if for some aftermarket mods. Plus I think the single hump dash looks much cleaner.

Agreed.
The only thing I'd want is MDM so I can half ass it with DSC off before actually turning it off completely on the track. It seems to allow a lot of slip before kicking in.

[cawest19]

Originally Posted by kaykay

Get the Tech package, load the car!

I ordered mine with every single option, a car like this should be fully loaded.

Really? I disagree. Personally I think Nav "dates" a vehicle. 5yrs from now the Nav will look like an old piece of equipment. I prefer mine w/o.

[FC]

I am a ways away from ordering, but I'm still torn on ZCP and ZTP. For me, the E90 would do it all (short of the bad weather/family trip car), including taking my kids to daycare daily and being the fun car (in suburban Boston roads, so not great).

My primary concern is that if I buy this car, I plan on keeping it forever. I fear the tech and ZCP packages just mean more things to fix out of warranty years from now. How reliable has CA, EDC

I could care less about NAV. CA is cool and perhaps very handy with little kids to load and unload twice a day. EDC could be helpful if the comfort setting is more comfortable than the regular shocks. I have no clue what MDM does but seems neat.

[Eau Rouge]

Originally Posted by driftmem3

Looking to buy 2011 M3 Coupe, loaded except technology package.

I'm a little confused....

Without tech package, I give up sat radio and nav.

What else will I miss out on??

Thank you!

Why? Because you will later think "I should have added ZTP", but at that point there's no retrofitting. Of course, even if you do get it and don't like it, you don't have to use it.

[IbanezGod]

Originally Posted by cawest19

Really? I disagree. Personally I think Nav "dates" a vehicle. 5yrs from now the Nav will look like an old piece of equipment. I prefer mine w/o.

how long do you plan on keeping the car? 5 years? 10 years? Remember it has a hard drive base... updates and improvements are much easier than on the old version.


ZTP was 100% required for me... it can't be retrofitted, you buy a new M3 because of the new improvements, why pass it up? Mdrive, EDC, Nav, updated iDrive and Stereo.

ZCP is easily retrofitted and more customizable. Get some great springs, custom wheels and software update.

[chmura]

Originally Posted by cawest19

Really? I disagree. Personally I think Nav "dates" a vehicle. 5yrs from now the Nav will look like an old piece of equipment. I prefer mine w/o.

I agree.

If you are going to keep the vehicle 5+ years DO NOT get the nav. Navs do date the vehicle. I still love the e46 M3, but when I see one with the Nav It truly makes the vehicle feel older.

If its a lease then get the tech package.

[Dr.G]

Originally Posted by RandyB

The tech pkg is a must have if you want the ugly double hump dash!

i love asymmetrical titties - not.

tech package + premium sound is what i have and don't feel like i need anything else

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by chmura

I agree.

If you are going to keep the vehicle 5+ years DO NOT get the nav. Navs do date the vehicle. I still love the e46 M3, but when I see one with the Nav It truly makes the vehicle feel older.

If its a lease then get the tech package.

Going 5 years without a very useful option just because it will look dated in the sixth year is a pretty weak argument. Personally, I'll never drive a BMW outside the warranty period, but to each his own.

[quality_sound]

Originally Posted by FC

I am a ways away from ordering, but I'm still torn on ZCP and ZTP. For me, the E90 would do it all (short of the bad weather/family trip car), including taking my kids to daycare daily and being the fun car (in suburban Boston roads, so not great).

My primary concern is that if I buy this car, I plan on keeping it forever. I fear the tech and ZCP packages just mean more things to fix out of warranty years from now. How reliable has CA, EDC

I could care less about NAV. CA is cool and perhaps very handy with little kids to load and unload twice a day. EDC could be helpful if the comfort setting is more comfortable than the regular shocks. I have no clue what MDM does but seems neat.

Just because you HAVE CA doesn't mean you have to use it. Other than sensors in the door handles and different batteries in the fobs it's not very different from cars without CA.

What on ZCP do you think will break? EDC is available without ZCP as well so I don't see where you're going with that one either.

Basically, if you don't want them, don't get them but neither should be a "problem child."

[WCM3]

Guys have a question, currently looking at a 2011 M3 and I don't believe it had the Tech package, but it does have Comfort Access. Was that offered as a standalone option in 2011? Below is the list, am i missing something?

Code Description (interface) Description (EPC)
S1CAA SELEKTION COP RELEVANTER FAHRZEUGE Selection of COP-relevant vehicles
S1CCA AUTO START STOP FUNKTION Auto start/stop function
S2MDA M DRIVE M Drive
S2VBA REIFENDRUCKANZEIGE Tyre pressure display
S302A ALARMANLAGE Alarm system
S322A KOMFORTZUGANG Comfort access
S415A SONNENSCHUTZROLLO FUER HECKSCHEIBE Sun-blind, rear
S441A RAUCHERPAKET Smoker package
S490A LEHNENBREITENVERSTELLUNG Adjustment, seat-backrest width
S4AEA ARMAUFLAGE VORNE VERSCHIEBBAR Armrest front, retractable
S4MYA INT.LEIST. LEDER CARBONSTR. SCHWARZ Int.trim,leather,carbon struct.,black
S507A PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC), rear
S521A REGENSENSOR Rain sensor
S563A LICHTPAKET Light package
S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Navigation system Professional
S615A ERWEITERTE BMW ONLINE INFORMATION Extended BMW Online Information
S616A BMW ONLINE BMW Online
S620A SPRACHEINGABESYSTEM Voice control
S639A KOMPLETTVORB. HANDY USA/CDN Preparation f mobile phone cpl. USA/CDN
S655A SATELLITENTUNER Satellite tuner
S697A AREA-CODE 1 Area-Code 1 for DVD
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW TeleServices
S6ABA STEUERUNG TELESERVICES Control, Teleservices
S6FLA USB-AUDIO-SCHNITTSTELLE USB/audio interface
S6NFA MUSIC-SCHNITTSTELLE FUER SMARTPHONE Music interface for Smartphone
S6NRA APPS Apps
S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION Traffic Information
S6VCA STEUERUNG COMBOX Control, Combox
S752A INDIVIDUAL AUDIOSYSTEM Individual audio system
S760A INDIVIDUAL HOCHGLANZ SHADOW LINE High gloss shadow line
S8SCA LAENDERSPEZ. TELESERVICEFREISCH. Telematics access request,country-spec.
S8SPA COP STEUERUNG Control unit COP
S8TLA TAGFAHRLICHT FRONT UND HECK AKTIV Dummy-SALAPA
S8TNA TAGFAHRLICHT UEBER LICHTMENUE EINST Dummy-SALAPA
S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Dispatch protection pack
S431A INNENSPIEGEL,AUTOMATISCH ABBLENDEND Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S522A XENON-LICHT Xenon Light
S524A ADAPTIVES KURVENLICHT Adaptive Headlights
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
S540A GESCHWINDIGKEITSREGELUNG Cruise control
S5DSA KOFFERRAUMNOTENTRIEGELUNG Emergency release, luggage compartment
S645A RADIO-STEUERUNG US BMW US Radio
S775A INDIVIDUAL DACHHIMMEL ANTHRAZIT Headlining anthracite
S845A AKUSTISCHE GURTWARNUNG Acoustic fasten seat belt reminder
S853A SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH Language version, English
S876A FUNKFREQUENZ 315 MHZ Radio frequency 315 MHz

[quiksi]

^ that car has nav

S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Navigation system Professional

[jimk]

The tech package was replaced by the convenience package (ZCV) in MY 2011+. M Drive became standard in 2011 as well.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/07/14/se...es-in-the-u-s/

[modkrazy]

Originally Posted by kaykay

Get the Tech package, load the car!

I ordered mine with every single option, a car like this should be fully loaded.

I disagree, the winter package with those ugly headlight washers is a travesty on this car.

[Ludey]

I recently traded my '09 without tech package for a loaded '13. Not having those tech options was the biggest reason I made that choice. Of course, I love the e92 overall and there were other factors involved. But it's like a completely different car if you're into the techie stuff. I use those options a lot, every single one of them.

[NashvegasR]

I dunno, on a car like this, I sort of thing the "get every option possible" mentality ultimately nets out to the best car.

EDC... tech... cold weather... extended leather... nav (even though it stinks)... it's all awesome. I got mine used so someone else paid the premium, then I looked for one with everything.

[duk]

comfort access that's why

[s85e90]

I LOL at all the "M" button crap here. Who needs outdated NAvi and M buttons, EDC??

I have coilovers and an adjustable right foot that controls the go pedal.

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by WCM3

Guys have a question, currently looking at a 2011 M3 and I don't believe it had the Tech package, but it does have Comfort Access. Was that offered as a standalone option in 2011? Below is the list, am i missing something?

Code Description (interface) Description (EPC)
S1CAA SELEKTION COP RELEVANTER FAHRZEUGE Selection of COP-relevant vehicles
S1CCA AUTO START STOP FUNKTION Auto start/stop function
S2MDA M DRIVE M Drive
S2VBA REIFENDRUCKANZEIGE Tyre pressure display
S302A ALARMANLAGE Alarm system
S322A KOMFORTZUGANG Comfort access
S415A SONNENSCHUTZROLLO FUER HECKSCHEIBE Sun-blind, rear
S441A RAUCHERPAKET Smoker package
S490A LEHNENBREITENVERSTELLUNG Adjustment, seat-backrest width
S4AEA ARMAUFLAGE VORNE VERSCHIEBBAR Armrest front, retractable
S4MYA INT.LEIST. LEDER CARBONSTR. SCHWARZ Int.trim,leather,carbon struct.,black
S507A PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC) Park Distance Control (PDC), rear
S521A REGENSENSOR Rain sensor
S563A LICHTPAKET Light package
S609A NAVIGATIONSSYSTEM PROFESSIONAL Navigation system Professional
S615A ERWEITERTE BMW ONLINE INFORMATION Extended BMW Online Information
S616A BMW ONLINE BMW Online
S620A SPRACHEINGABESYSTEM Voice control
S639A KOMPLETTVORB. HANDY USA/CDN Preparation f mobile phone cpl. USA/CDN
S655A SATELLITENTUNER Satellite tuner
S697A AREA-CODE 1 Area-Code 1 for DVD
S6AAA BMW TELESERVICES BMW TeleServices
S6ABA STEUERUNG TELESERVICES Control, Teleservices
S6FLA USB-AUDIO-SCHNITTSTELLE USB/audio interface
S6NFA MUSIC-SCHNITTSTELLE FUER SMARTPHONE Music interface for Smartphone
S6NRA APPS Apps
S6UHA TRAFFIC INFORMATION Traffic Information
S6VCA STEUERUNG COMBOX Control, Combox
S752A INDIVIDUAL AUDIOSYSTEM Individual audio system
S760A INDIVIDUAL HOCHGLANZ SHADOW LINE High gloss shadow line
S8SCA LAENDERSPEZ. TELESERVICEFREISCH. Telematics access request,country-spec.
S8SPA COP STEUERUNG Control unit COP
S8TLA TAGFAHRLICHT FRONT UND HECK AKTIV Dummy-SALAPA
S8TNA TAGFAHRLICHT UEBER LICHTMENUE EINST Dummy-SALAPA
S925A VERSANDSCHUTZPAKET Dispatch protection pack
S431A INNENSPIEGEL,AUTOMATISCH ABBLENDEND Interior mirror with automatic-dip
S522A XENON-LICHT Xenon Light
S524A ADAPTIVES KURVENLICHT Adaptive Headlights
S534A KLIMAAUTOMATIK Automatic air conditioning
S540A GESCHWINDIGKEITSREGELUNG Cruise control
S5DSA KOFFERRAUMNOTENTRIEGELUNG Emergency release, luggage compartment
S645A RADIO-STEUERUNG US BMW US Radio
S775A INDIVIDUAL DACHHIMMEL ANTHRAZIT Headlining anthracite
S845A AKUSTISCHE GURTWARNUNG Acoustic fasten seat belt reminder
S853A SPRACHVERSION ENGLISCH Language version, English
S876A FUNKFREQUENZ 315 MHZ Radio frequency 315 MHz

That's a 2011.5, at which time the Tech Package was replaced by the Competition Package and Convenience Package. This one appears to have the former but not the latter. M Drive became standard in 2011.5, so the only component you're missing from the Tech Package is EDC.

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by s85e90

I LOL at all the "M" button crap here. Who needs outdated NAvi and M buttons, EDC??

I have coilovers and an adjustable right foot that controls the go pedal.

I find Servotronic Sport enjoyable during fun drives and at the track, Euro MDM useful at the track, and EDC useful for balancing DD comfort and fun/track driving sharpness, though admittedly the first two can be unofficially retrofitted now.

[modkrazy]

Originally Posted by cawest19

Really? I disagree. Personally I think Nav "dates" a vehicle. 5yrs from now the Nav will look like an old piece of equipment. I prefer mine w/o.

That implies you want to own the same car long-term. Why would you want that with a turbo motor? Lease that shit once residuals get better and swap it for a new one every couple of years.