Human Immortality

scottwww · 09-26-2009, 03:16 PM

Mathematician, physicist, essayist Freeman Dyson has been at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton since 1953. His books include DISTURBING THE UNIVERSE (1979), INFINITE IN ALL DIRECTIONS (1988), and THE SUN, THE GENOME, AND THE INTERNET (1999). Esther Dyson, known as the most searching, insightful, and wry of journalists covering the computer industry, is longtime editor of "Release 1.0," author of RELEASE 2.0 and a member of the Long Now board.. Famed kayak designer George Dyson has become a highly respected chronicler of technology history with DARWIN AMONG THE MACHINES (1997) and PROJECT ORION (2002).

Freeman Dyson with George and Esther Dyson, The Difficulty of Looking Far Ahead

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armenh · 09-26-2009, 09:59 PM

whats the point of living forever, i am sick now and i have to wait probably 3-4 days to get better, maybe they should create something that once u get sick u can get better in 1 hour....

len56 · 09-26-2009, 09:59 PM

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Ray Kurzweil: How technology's accelerating power will transform us

if this guy's right, i was right

(computers as powerful as brains in the 2020's)

Romo · 09-27-2009, 06:42 AM

This is no bullshit at all.

Everything is changing, and it`s changing fast, believe it or not.

Look at this guy; Aubrey de Grey PhD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey

TiAg335i · 09-27-2009, 03:34 PM

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I don't know much about biology, but a documentary I watched once indicated that telomeres (spelling?) are one of the main things that limits our lifespan. Apparently they determine how many times your DNA can replicate. If this could be fixed, then our biology might be able to go on for much longer. I would guess that one of the more difficult things to extend would be memory. If you replaced old brain cells with new ones, wouldn't the memories go with them? That may not be a bad thing.

I'm pretty sure the telomeres protect the ends of the DNA from degradation during successive replication cycles...so yes, you are right.

If we could alter their genetic makeup such that they are not altered during replication, or even lengthen them, maybe we could slow aging....

I'm sure there is a bunch of research out there on this. If you are interested you should check it out.

Koroush · 09-27-2009, 04:01 PM

Yay, I guess We can all live forever now!!1

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graider · 09-27-2009, 04:17 PM

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What if our enhanced human minds and immortality brought us to be a space faring civilization? Mining materials from the asteroid belt would become easier and easier. We really wouldn't need to live on planets. Just live in orbit. Live on moons. Being immortal, the distance to other stars wouldn't seem so far. Resources should be rather unlimited.

+1. I'm a supporter for immortality. the posibility for human advancement is endless. the last thing we should be worry about is running out of resources.

it would be cool if we can live forever and see human advance to space, colonize everything, star war, etc haha

ejazbmw · 09-27-2009, 04:32 PM

who would want to live forever in this fucked up world? I mean shit is only going to get worse so i'd rather be in the ground in peace...

Spool · 09-27-2009, 05:02 PM

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who would want to live forever in this fucked up world? I mean shit is only going to get worse so i'd rather be in the ground in peace...

Good stuff man..

But sometimes i'm curious of how far our technology will take us, and if we'll ever have technology can that find aliens or another world like ours

ejazbmw · 09-27-2009, 05:08 PM

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Good stuff man..

But sometimes i'm curious of how far our technology will take us, and if we'll ever have technology can that find aliens or another world like ours

yeah thats true i always wonder that as well

scottwww · 09-27-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Romo

This is no bullshit at all.

Everything is changing, and it`s changing fast, believe it or not.

Look at this guy; Aubrey de Grey PhD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey

This guy looks like a hippie freak, but he has a lot of interesting stuff to say on the subject. Thanks for posting it.

Evangelo2 · 09-28-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by len56

if this guy's right, i was right

(computers as powerful as brains in the 2020's)

I enjoyed his book, "The Singularity Is Near". Interesting read and thought provoking...

brocken · 09-28-2009, 06:07 PM

Screw immortality. The only good point somebody had in this thread is the possibility of space travel if you had a longer life span. Now that's badass!

MJC///M3 · 09-29-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ejazbmw

who would want to live forever in this fucked up world? I mean shit is only going to get worse so i'd rather be in the ground in peace...

i'm with you on that one bro.

Nawaaz · 09-29-2009, 09:00 AM

Life wouldn't be as exciting if we all knew we were going to live forever, now would it?

kyleb350 · 09-29-2009, 09:23 AM

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Life wouldn't be as exciting if we all knew we were going to live forever, now would it?

but like my dad always tells me "It's a bitch gettin old"

MJC///M3 · 09-29-2009, 10:09 AM

i believe Brad Pitt said it the best in the cinematic masterpiece....TROY "the gods envy us, because we are mortal. Everything is more beautiful, because we are doomed."

FOR TROY!!!

scottwww · 09-29-2009, 03:07 PM

Eternal life will be very beautiful. Until then, life extension sounds good. I'd take a few centuries for myself. I am not doomed.

dpwr · 09-30-2009, 02:43 PM

seems like many people just want to die in this thread lol.... i would take extra 100-200 years in a heart beat.. problem is it would only be for the rich, but I would sell everything I have and go into debt to be on this earth longer

graider · 10-04-2009, 08:31 PM

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seems like many people just want to die in this thread lol.... i would take extra 100-200 years in a heart beat.. problem is it would only be for the rich, but I would sell everything I have and go into debt to be on this earth longer

exactly. this lead me to think most people who want to die must have a miserable child hood or something, lol

for me, it would be awesome if I can live and stay young around 30 years old forever. f as much women as you like, ride as many cars as you like, see exactly what human future will be like, etc. so many interesting thing to see.

SoCali E36 · 10-05-2009, 03:48 AM

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Eternal life will be very beautiful. Until then, life extension sounds good. I'd take a few centuries for myself. I am not doomed.

+1

Jammin Jason · 10-05-2009, 05:31 AM

immorality would take away the whole reason why people "LIVE." the best part of life is knowing your not going to be here forever, which gives people the reason to "go big or go home" or "live it up" and enjoying the finer things(and little things). it pushes the individual to achieve ones potential in life. How embarrassing would it be that you set a goal for yourself and 200 years later its still not achieved?

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brocken Captain 34 Rep 616 Posts Drives: X3MC Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (5)	Screw immortality. The only good point somebody had in this thread is the possibility of space travel if you had a longer life span. Now that's badass!
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scottwww Brigadier General 536 Rep 4,760 Posts Drives: 07 BMW 335i, 15 Infiniti Q60S Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Eternal life will be very beautiful. Until then, life extension sounds good. I'd take a few centuries for myself. I am not doomed. __________________ 2007 BMW 335i E92, Montego Blue on Cream Beige, MT, ZSP, ZPP, CA, PDC, CWP and Style 188 for winter
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